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| Quote: RealSteel89 "Get rid of all involved and if we survive bring in some proffesional players and build a new culture.'"
You're beginning to sound just like a Salford fan.
Locke being involved doesn't surprise me as he seems to have a larger than normal idiot gene that kicks-in regularly. Surprised about Tim Smith if it's true. I can see your Club getting shut of them, and rightly so if true.
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| In the case of Smith, its a tragedy to have that much talent, but little application or so it seems. He destroyed us single handed in the Qualifying 8 match. How we have yearned most of the season for a performance like that from a number 7.
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| Quote: RealSteel89 "Get rid of all involved and if we survive bring in some proffesional players and build a new culture.'"
Correct. All this carry on after a gutless performance stinks. Simple as.
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| I wouldn't sack any of them.
Locke is unlikely to stay anyway but I'm not sure he's actually done anything wrong.
Lyne should have some kind of disciplinary but that's a short term suspension.
Smith is out of contract and he Has actually done something wrong by drink driving (if proved to be true). Add to that an inconsistent season at best I think we can do better.
Anderson seems to have been dropped from the list so may not have done anything, but he has been dropped so implies he has.
He's in contract and I'd keep him but should be disciplined according to club rules.
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| Pop Tart having spoken to people closely associated with the victims of this incident (car owners) I wouldn't take for gospel some of your assumptions on some of those involved.
I would happily be shut of Locke, Smith and Lyne. What they have been involved in (from what I heard) is totally out of order. A disrespect for safety, the law and endangering themselves and others. They have not shown any maturity to the responsibilities that go with being a public figure by being a professional sportsman. They have tarnished the reputation of our club.
I think we have enough quality without them to beat 2 or if need be 3 Championship teams until the end of the season.
As for Anderson, I only have the information posted on this forum to go by so can only have a limited view.
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| Quote: TheButcher "You're beginning to sound just like a Salford fan.
Locke being involved doesn't surprise me as he seems to have a larger than normal idiot gene that kicks-in regularly. Surprised about Tim Smith if it's true. I can see your Club getting shut of them, and rightly so if true.'"
Right now I wish I was a Salford fan. It sounds like heaven!
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| Quote: TheButcher "You're beginning to sound just like a Salford fan.
Locke being involved doesn't surprise me as he seems to have a larger than normal idiot gene that kicks-in regularly. Surprised about Tim Smith if it's true. I can see your Club getting shut of them, and rightly so if true.'"
Could Locke still be on the Salford pat role??
Sent over to rock the apple cart!
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| Quote: PopTart "I wouldn't sack any of them.
Locke is unlikely to stay anyway but I'm not sure he's actually done anything wrong.
Lyne should have some kind of disciplinary but that's a short term suspension.
Smith is out of contract and he Has actually done something wrong by drink driving (if proved to be true). Add to that an inconsistent season at best I think we can do better.
Anderson seems to have been dropped from the list so may not have done anything, but he has been dropped so implies he has.
He's in contract and I'd keep him but should be disciplined according to club rules.[/quo
Got a quick look the wakey express and it reported Anderson had also been for disciplinary reason not linked to the Brough incident .
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| Quote: Mr Bliss "Could Locke still be on the Salford pat role??
Sent over to rock the apple cart!'"
Haha. Locke has no love for Salford, believe me. He came on reputation, played one good game, became the games most expensive water-carrier then had a hissy fit when he was found out. He has bags of talent but poor application. I made comment when he came over to you not to expect anything, and I presume he's delivered on that front. Fwiw I think you could pip Salford to fourth spot on points as I don't think we'll win another game.
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| Quote: TheButcher "Haha. Locke has no love for Salford, believe me. He came on reputation, played one good game, became the games most expensive water-carrier then had a hissy fit when he was found out. He has bags of talent but poor application. I made comment when he came over to you not to expect anything, and I presume he's delivered on that front. Fwiw I think you could pip Salford to fourth spot on points as I don't think we'll win another game.'"
I was rather hoping we would pip you for the 3rd slot
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| I thought that the appointment of Brian Smith would at least bring some discipline to the club but in light of last Saturday's poor attitude from all the players and this week's disgraceful behaviour and irresponsible actions of a few of our highest paid players it seems not to be the case.
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| Sadly ball-in-hand some people don't react well to discipline. That is why I'm all for hefty punishment for those concerned. If they don't want to act in a professional way they can go and be unprofessional elsewhere. Don't want a tonne of bad apples in our cart.
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| The most saddening aspect in all this is the seeming lack of respect by senior experienced players, to the club, the fans, coaching staff, and of course themselves mostly. What baffles me is, don't they realise that them as individuals are now presumably going to find it harder to secure deals at other clubs, surely?! Obviously I don't have the exact facts to hand, only what I've read like everybody else, but it just beggars belief when in certain cases they have been given second chances to resurrect their careers and they just seem to blow it. Of course they may already have deals tied up at other clubs, but in the case of Locke he's only here because of a dispute over unpaid money at Salford, and only he and Mr Koukash know the truth. It's 4 months now since Webster left, so many people were crying out for an experienced coach who would whip them into shape, give the club some discipline both on and off the field, but yet it's seemingly worse now than then in certain areas?! This is certainly no Brian Smith bashathon, but I really don't think he's had the effect desired yet, but of course if we do stay up then he will have been a success, although God only knows where we go from there having to recruit an almost entire squad capable of competing next in year in the space of 3 or 4 months! Obviously it takes time to implement things into a club, but with all the will in the world, if from MC down through to the players there's disharmony it's just an impossible task, It's like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing half the time, and now there's seemingly zero respect between MC and the long suffering fans, which has filtered through to the playing staff so it would seem. People said the problem was Websters' negativity, but I think we all knew it went a bit deeper than that.....
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| All Rover's Aussie's don't live in Brough.
On the subject of drink driving and who did what why when ?
Would you get in a car when you know a person the driver has been drinking.
Players contracts these days include standards of behaviour ie bringing the club into disrepute.
If i was to list all the professional sportsmen which have done exactly the same we would be here all night
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| Quote: Rover105 "All Rover's Aussie's don't live in Brough.
On the subject of drink driving and who did what why when ?
Would you get in a car when you know a person the driver has been drinking.
Players contracts these days include standards of behaviour ie bringing the club into disrepute.
If i was to list all the professional sportsmen which have done exactly the same we would be here all night'"
They'll be a better driver than our lass.
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