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| Despite your fine use of the English language I will only believe it when it is official.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Despite your fine use of the English language I will only believe it when it is official.'"
I'm giving up one of my allotments at the end of the year when the current rent period ends. I'll still be picking the fruit and veg until I leave it though.
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| No consultation with fans of their choice .if we had a choice of no carter and belle vue.?
I think it will be the biggest mistake ever to move.
It takes our any options we have of stadium development and surly if this will be the biggest decision the club has ever made .
fans should have at least their opinions heard in a public meeting.
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| I would imagine that unless you've got a million quid or so in your sock drawer, your opinion is irrelevant.
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| Quote: factsareus "No consultation with fans of their choice .if we had a choice of no carter and belle vue.?
I think it will be the biggest mistake ever to move.
It takes our any options we have of stadium development and surly if this will be the biggest decision the club has ever made .
fans should have at least their opinions heard in a public meeting.'"
why would they need to make a choice for the fans, the decision is being made to keep the club afloat, as for a public meeting its funny how you guys don't turn up to voice your opinion in public only stirring on here
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| Why a million pounds?.thought only one was needed?
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| (why would they need to make a choice for the fans, the decision is being made to keep the club afloat, as for a public meeting its funny how you guys don't turn up to voice your opinion in public only poop stirring on here)
So leaving our home and giving up any possible options to develop is saving the club?
And any oppinion other than yours is poop stirring ?
All I am saying is I believe the vast majority of fans don't want to move what choices has been put to them to stop this happening.
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| Quote: factsareus "(why would they need to make a choice for the fans, the decision is being made to keep the club afloat, as for a public meeting its funny how you guys don't turn up to voice your opinion in public only poop stirring on here)
So leaving our home and giving up any possible options to develop is saving the club?
And any oppinion other than yours is poop stirring ?
All I am saying is I believe the vast majority of fans don't want to move what choices has been put to them to stop this happening.'"
The only choice I can see any fan having is winning the lottery,buying BV back from the BOI and redeveloping it.I'm sure MC and Co are doing every thing possible,a bit like Snowie and his team did,to bring it up to a minimum standard the other season,as they say ,action is louder than words.
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| Quote: Big lads mate "The only choice I can see any fan having is winning the lottery,buying BV back from the BOI and redeveloping it.I'm sure MC and Co are doing every thing possible,a bit like Snowie and his team did,to bring it up to a minimum standard the other season,as they say ,action is louder than words.'"
From what we know I can see a clear choice either stay at BV at the cost of £250K a year or move out of town to Dewsbury. What the cost to play at Dewsbury is unclear but one thing I would guarantee is the loss of support. Will the difference make up the costs? What happens if we have reasonable year on the field, we'll certainly find it harder to win fans back playing away from our established home? Lets not forget the reason why the £250K is such a liability is because our crowds are poor which means our income is adequate. Thats down to the dross on the field due to tolerating terrible coaches for too long.
Does Carter see Wakefield Trinity as club that represents the community and the City or does he see it has a franchise that he can market better else where?
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| Quote: deeHell "From what we know I can see a clear choice either stay at BV at the cost of £250K a year or move out of town to Dewsbury. What the cost to play at Dewsbury is unclear but one thing I would guarantee is the loss of support. Will the difference make up the costs? What happens if we have reasonable year on the field, we'll certainly find it harder to win fans back playing away from our established home? Lets not forget the reason why the £250K is such a liability is because our crowds are poor which means our income is adequate. Thats down to the dross on the field due to tolerating terrible coaches for too long.
You make some fair points.
I would go one further. IF the club move to Dewsbury with no POSITIVE news of a new ground in the city then it is the death of our great club - make no bones about it the 'support' we have will decrease, I would guess by half (and that's assuming we're still in SL!) , so we're then down to championship gates.
I genuinely fear for the club's future.
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| I don't see why it is guaranteed that a move to Dewsbury will lose support.
It's not like there are so many that live in Agbrigg or Belle Vue.
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| There's a very interesting article in the Rugby League Journal on 'Wakefield Trinity's Ground Dilemma' Well worth a read!
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| All well run business would before such momentous decisions take surveys. Consultations.and opinions.
None have been done.
We are faced with it costs too much to stay at bell vue and yet at the same time been told that nothing has been spent on the ground ?
That the rent is too expensive yet this week at Wembley I am told no negotiation was carried out and indeed a very reasonable rent could be achieved.
We have swayed between developing bell vue and Newmarket once we leave then one of the options disappear and chances of developmen are nil.
With limited Information we are told that yourcourt are making offers to buy the ground if now this does not go ahead does that mean any enhanced value we may have achieved to help build Newmarket is thrown away?
I am amazed how people can just say oh dewsbury ..not too bad.and give up our heritage.
Who can rely if past experience is anything to go by on super leagues assurances on our ability to get back or stay in super league if we move and what assurances have been given.
Before it's too late to stay at our wonderful ground ( not the description used buy some I know )
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| Quote: PopTart "I don't see why it is guaranteed that a move to Dewsbury will lose support.
It's not like there are so many that live in Agbrigg or Belle Vue.'"
The point being not many turn up to watch Trinity at their ancestral home, how many are likely to turn up to another clubs ground? If you give people an excuse not to come they will more than likely take it.
Also the point being made by a previous poster is that most businesses would at least consider their most loyal consumer base before making a big decision which could affect their continued custom. This is a move which seems to being brought on by numbers alone with no consultation whatsoever.
Whist the move may save the club £250k per annum, it could cost the club not much less.
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| Quote: deeHell "From what we know I can see a clear choice either stay at BV at the cost of £250K a year or move out of town to Dewsbury. What the cost to play at Dewsbury is unclear but one thing I would guarantee is the loss of support. Will the difference make up the costs? What happens if we have reasonable year on the field, we'll certainly find it harder to win fans back playing away from our established home? Lets not forget the reason why the £250K is such a liability is because our crowds are poor which means our income is adequate. Thats down to the dross on the field due to tolerating terrible coaches for too long.
Does Carter see Wakefield Trinity as club that represents the community and the City or does he see it has a franchise that he can market better else where?'"
I guess £200 grand and full salary cap to spend,just guessing.
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