My take on the trouble after the game, both teams have troublesome fans, these need to be rooted out, Wakey speccis, if you know the Wakey fans involved, name them to the club, let them put their side of the story, ditto Cas fans.
I know reading the Casforums that people know who the Cas fans who were attacking/attacked Wakey fans are as they've been named, get it sorted by the people in authority, simple.

The problem is this is the 3rd time in under 3 years we have been investigated for crowd issues. As a club we are gaining an undesirable reputation and as the RFL want the game to remain to be be seen as the 'family game' then i doubt they will be impressed. It seems to be a growing problem within a few of our fans and it needs nipping in the bud quickly, which is exactly why the perpetrators should be made an example of to show that we will not accept behaviour contrary to the rules. Throw the book at them and show we are getting tough and it might stop future issues and the RFL might go a little easier. Taking a soft option and next time it might not be just a moderately dangerous missile like a smoke bomb but actually a flare or firework. Then we have a major problem on our hands.

Sadly I'm pretty sure this isn't just our club that has a minority of nutmegs, we've had problems off the top of my head with, St Helens, Widnes, Cas, Hull FC, Hull KR, I've been abused and threatened by Wigan fans at Wembley for wearing my Wakey shirt, been spat at in Perpignan by Catalans supporters.
We've all got them but they must be rooted out and banned, but let's not think we're the only bad 'uns.
Unless it's just me that attracts them?

My take on the smoke bomb thing is that those responsible should be asked to meet MC and let him explain the potential consequences to the club of incidents like that. Trying to be charitable, the people who took them in and set them off probably did just think it would look great and would add atmosphere, etc, without any malicious thinking beyond that. If they are young lads, let them apologise and understand the potential impact and then carry on.

As for the fighting, the one thing I do take from the incidents at Cas and against Widnes is that our fans do not tend to start the trouble. We have perhaps a few, however, who are a bit too quick to respond to baiting. I know Sunday is tricky, because it sounds like the Cas lads went in swinging, and then people defend themselves and it drags others in, but there are a few who could perhaps do with learning to rise above it.

I do think that increased segregation is part of the problem, in that fans have got used to going to most grounds and being offensive to the opposition fans, knowing that there is no mixing, and it doesn't carry on outside. Then problems arise when old habits carry on in non-segregated grounds.

Definitely don't think wakey should be fined. MC is doing his damnedest to find the culprits, has spoken of his utter frustration and is running an investigation on it. Very harsh that a club should be punished due to 2 mindless idiots. A shame there was any bother because I was thrilled with a crowd of 10,700. That's the biggest crowd for a cas game not involving Leeds in have seen at wheldon road.

When Bradford tried using a similar rationale for leniency didn't some sort or organisation write to the RFL? The name escapes me.

And it's worth saying, most of that crowd were great.
They guys around me were fine. I cheered when Wakefield scored and they didn't get upset and vica versa.

A couple of smoke bombs is a world away from blatant financial mismanagement.

So Bradford's financial crisis was down to a couple of idiotic fans???? Is that what you're suggesting? If not, I fail to see how the 2 are linked or can be compared in any way.

You are completely missing the point. Vastman was suggesting that the efforts made by the new owner to turn the club around were somehow grounds for leniency.

Now you may well have grounds for leniency but that certainly isn't one of them.

Sustained Financial ineptitude versus moronic cretinousness. I'd say that's about even really.

Let's not turn thsi into a financial review of rugby league in West Yorkshire again.

Much as I don't like the thread being here we are talking abnout thetrouble at Cas.
PP was just making a passing comment, that's all.

There you go again with your calm and thoughtful moderating. I won't poke the bear any further.

The smoke bombs are the bigger offender for me. What passed through the mind of the idiots bringing them to the ground I have no idea.

Re-reading my post that was really bad typing

You are of course always welcome on here Pumpy.
I hope you guys are in the top 4 this year to play us...but equally I hope we are top 8 so we don't.