I think you guys need more at half back than a 33 year old centre and a 30 year old with limited SL experience.

Cream over your pack all you want, yeah it's shaped up pretty well, but you won't win very many games without quality in the halves.

Each hour that passes is an hour nearer the season and less and less will become available. Sykes and Finn would be basically sound, but painfully slow and have virtually no flair.

To say lacking pace and flair is fine as long as you kick well is a very naive way of looking at the sport. Leeds do the "5 drives and kick" game plan very well but they'd still a golden boot winner playing half back all year, cause it sounds WAAAAY easier than what it is. To think you can get Finn and Sykes to do that at the top level and "grind out results" ....well, good luck I suppose

Bring back Finn would be as daft as bringing back Tiger handforth. Infact whilst we are in such a stupid mindset lets also consider Paul March if he's still in training.

Another expert - and I thought I was the only one

Why bag a player before he even starts - I don't get it. Further to that we have had more success with Finn type players than any other. In fact Sykes was one of those and to use your expression people were creaming themselves over him after a few games. Teams shape up in all sorts of strange ways.

Its a forum, people have opinions, you can choose to ignore who you wish. Otherwise we may as well shut up shop.

Heard we are also talking to Dave Wrench to see if he fancies another season. He used to run well off Liam Finn the last time they were both at the club. This was also on twitter so it must have some truth in it.

Pace isnt everything in the halves....getting a combination that work together behind a strong pack is key for me.....call Sykes a 33 centre all ya like Dave but he has been a class 6 for us....a very underated player and one you dont appreciate fully until you see him week in week out doing all the little things right....a far, far better playet than i thought he was before we signed him......having said that....Finn wouldnt be for me....although he could surprise like sykes has......think we also need to pray sykes stays injury free.....

Honesty pal I aren't knocking either player - I just think as a pairing it wouldn't work. Their attributes don't seem to blend very well, that's not to say they don't have any.

As I say, I do think you need a degree of pace and flair in the halves, and as a pair I think that'd be their shortfall.

Again, that's not to say they're poor in their positions individually.

I don't think I'm getting my point across very well here

If you want to spend time getting your point across why not choose a subject with some credibility rather than peddling a stupid rumour.

You don't rate them Dave, nowt wrong with that viewpoint, I don't imagine as a half back pairing they're top of most Trinity supporters list either but if that's thats what we end up with so be it.

Have we signed Liam Finn, did I miss something?

I sincerely hope not, the lads been destroyed before stepping on the pitch

I aren't peddling rumours either....

think is I do actually rate them both, just not as a pairing.

This brick wall is doing my head in