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Quote: El Rey "If you'd kept up you would maybe understand MC won't answer questions on here of this nature, he's said so a few times.

Perhaps gob shut and eyes open may be the way forward, just a thought.'"


Or perhaps not? Agent XIII please keep the posts coming, I don't agree with quite a lot of what you say but there is nowt wrong with challenging the perceived wisdom on here even when you are wrong. Just a thought

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Quote: sixtogo "Not that it really matters but between 2009 & 2012 the net worth of Hull went from -£106k to -£1.7million. This was during her tenure, or in the case of the last year, as a result of her running of the club.'"

So you'll now admit that you were lying when you said Hull made a loss of £500k every year under her tenure then?

I'm honestly not sure how you can get things so wrong. Stop just reading the free figures from Duedil, you obviously don't understand them or Hull FC.
If you look at the capital employed figure you'll realise why that happened.

She wasn't running the club in 2012. She sold it in 2011.

Your attempts to suggest she lost lots of money at Hull doesn't stand up to scrutiny and are simply factually incorrect.

But keep plugging away though, this is fun.

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Anyhow, by the sound of it Lenagan & his band of dissenters favour a fourteen team league, with one up & one down, maybe as early as next year.

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778

If that came to fruition we could be battling against London to stay up. I still don’t understand why the club would vote for the new format when this option seems more palatable, we could even sell a player or two & still have a chance of competing against London.
Anyhow, by the sound of it Lenagan & his band of dissenters favour a fourteen team league, with one up & one down, maybe as early as next year.

www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778

If that came to fruition we could be battling against London to stay up. I still don’t understand why the club would vote for the new format when this option seems more palatable, we could even sell a player or two & still have a chance of competing against London.


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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Anyhow, by the sound of it Lenagan & his band of dissenters favour a fourteen team league, with one up & one down, maybe as early as next year.

Assuming London want SL, couldn't you see them loading the team with experience for one last hurrah?

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Quote: JINJER "Assuming London want SL, couldn't you see them loading the team with experience for one last hurrah?'"


Maybe so, but they’ll have to get a jog on, plus there’s the overseas restrictions – interesting times.

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I am sorry but you know the rules no criticism of any decisions made even if they have no logic other than family unity.

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Quote: Wildcatfan "Agent - why don't you ask via email to the clubs website on Thursday instead of nagging MC on here !!

Do you really expect him to answer every one of your issues / questions ??

We as fans aren't entitled to know everything regarding how the club runs or in this case votes.

It'll be so much better to leave them be and just concentrate on how we can help individually and in numbers.

Anything of significance will be published so cut him some slack !!'"



This is exactly why a chairman coming on here is a bad idea. Folk like Agent think they should have every question answered. That's why an arms length weekly Q & A is much more professional.
I also think there is much disrespect shown towards our chairman. He has put good money into this club. It's his way or the highway as there is no one else prepared to put money where their mouths are (sorry forgot about the mythical four investors waiting in the wings waiting for Jimmy to go). We have no right at all to keep questioning him. There is no other option so we have to roll with it and let's just be grateful he stepped in at all. And if he wants to sell players off to pay the bills that's simple economics.

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No I do not I am just making a point it's call irony. We are happy to put constant negative news in the public domain which does us no good. I personally do not think in the grand scheme of things we are not in such a deep hole compared to other clubs. They may be in denial or have chosen the route of not advertising the actual state they are in.
The reason I kept asking about how we voted was because if true it made no sense why agree to two down as opposed to one suggested by the SL clubs. I therefore just followed the current trend of being honest with the supporters that you all like unfortunately this time they decided that they would keep their own council.
I have no problem with that but if this is the new policy which I think is too late I am quite happy to accept it because it was what I was calling for since their first badly thought through press statement.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Anyhow, by the sound of it Lenagan & his band of dissenters favour a fourteen team league, with one up & one down, maybe as early as next year.'"


And that's why I support their intervention - it makes much more sense than the ill-thought out nonsense that the RFL have tried to push through.

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Carl Hall of Doncaster has had one almighty public dummy spit about it tonight. Had a major pop at Lenaghan.

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Quote: bren2k "And that's why I support their intervention - it makes much more sense than the ill-thought out nonsense that the RFL have tried to push through.'"


I thought Lenagan's main issue was one of how the funds are allocated? 1 up 1 down doesn't change the funding situation for his club, and never will, as Cas can testify. It's just a smokescreen for keeping whatever money there is available in the big SL clubs, rather than feeding the rest of the family.

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www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778

I thought the game was finally coming together after all these years but it appears that greed and self interest still prevails. Saddens me to read this. Surely a greater number of strong clubs will in turn make the game as a whole stronger
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778

I thought the game was finally coming together after all these years but it appears that greed and self interest still prevails. Saddens me to read this. Surely a greater number of strong clubs will in turn make the game as a whole stronger


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In all this group love in don't forget what Halifax had to say about us when our licence was renewed. They were happy then to join the Super League and did not care about Wakefield or it's supporters.
Let's be realistic every club regardless of what they say have an automatic self interest fall back position and would quite happily see the drawbridge to SL drawn up providing they were on the inside.
I guess the top clubs in the championship fear that they would lose money if the RFL plan did not go ahead, so they are very similar to the stance taking by some SL clubs who fear they would lose money if the RFL plan does goes ahead.

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Quote: Agent XIII "In all this group love in don't forget what Halifax had to say about us when our licence was renewed. They were happy then to join the Super League and did not care about Wakefield or it's supporters.
Let's be realistic every club regardless of what they say have an automatic self interest fall back position and would quite happily see the drawbridge to SL drawn up providing they were on the inside.
I guess the top clubs in the championship fear that they would lose money if the RFL plan did not go ahead, so they are very similar to the stance taking by some SL clubs who fear they would lose money if the RFL plan does goes ahead.'"

All the more reason to prevent Lenagan or anyone else with club connections from being part of the governing body of the sport. Do we really want to go back to the days of the Lindsay, Caisley, Hetherington self interested domination of the game? I don't think so

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In 1991 Wigan received £44K for winning the Stones Bitter Championship. Last Saturday for beating Warrington in the Superleague Grand Final Wigan received £30K.

Is it any wonder that Lenagan is unhappy with the way that game has "progressed"

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