FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Our New Investor Could Be....?
155 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3841No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Reading through the thread it appears to me that it makes perfect sense for Parkin to centralize his businesses in one place (Newmarket). It is also true that Guisley need to improve their ground shortly and by moving to Newmarket he can get Guisley a new ground for free which again appears to make perfect sense. The only thing that may cause issues is moving Guisley to Wakefield, we wont know whether they will loose or gain fans by doing this. As for buying us, it would make sense for him to invest what is probably loose change for him in order for him to effectivly control the newmarket stadium and also it would probably be cheaper to run two teams out of one stadium then it is to run one team because it would give him all round income as opposed to just football in the winter or rugby in the summer.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vastman "Point 2 is the one that matters - I hope your info and opinion is correct, I really do
Correct, and that's the one that I don't really get.

His business is logistics, right? Why would he need to, never mind want to centralise his operations? He already has an HQ. If he operates nationwide, surely he won't have all his warehouses in the same place? And if he does, well, he doesn't have to saddle himself with a rugby league club to do it.

Now if he plans to move Guiseley to Newmarket if/when the stadium is built, and if he has established connections with Wakefield because his football team train here (why???), then maybe that's the key?

TRB
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2021Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vastman "Fair enough, but we have heard all this stuff before. Yes it is a possible scenario no doubt, but that is all it is IMO. At this moment I can see far more reasons why it won't happen than it will. If anyone can tell me why it's a goer I'm ready to listen, but as you say for now it's all speculation.

Not having a go at you TRB but it's the same over optimistic speculation that had us believing the diggers would be at Newmarket by now. We need to stop writing the headline before we have the story IMO. I know this is a forum and that is the nature of the beast but there has to be a counterbalance to the rampant speculation which is why I and a few others are questioning without hopefull appearing vindictive or negative.

Fingers crossed.'"


You counterbalance away old boy. There are more than one potential buyer involved - so I am told - and one / several or none of them could end up with the club, who knows. We understand that Parkin is one of them and France is another. The end!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3587
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2019Aug 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TRB "You counterbalance away old boy. There are more than one potential buyer involved - so I am told - and one / several or none of them could end up with the club, who knows. We understand that Parkin is one of them and France is another. The end!'"


Thank you TRB, and yes i still icon_hearteyes.gif you

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9974
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2019Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TRB "You counterbalance away old boy. There are more than one potential buyer involved - so I am told - and one / several or none of them could end up with the club, who knows. We understand that Parkin is one of them and France is another. The end!'"

are you currently clutching a handbag to your midriff? icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3587
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2019Aug 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: kinleycat "are you currently clutching a handbag to your midriff?
Behave icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9974
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2019Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TRB "It's not a guess, but is based on good information - and is in what the club have said publicly.

Pardon me for the semantics!
from the club? hardly gossip and rumour then.

more misleading confusion than semantics.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36110
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: TRB "You counterbalance away old boy. There are more than one potential buyer involved - so I am told - and one / several or none of them could end up with the club, who knows. We understand that Parkin is one of them and France is another. The end!'"


You can't possibly believe that icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7665
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



What I know or think I know

Guisley's manager, Steve Kittrick, is a huge fan of the club and a long time sponsor who has poured a lot of money into the club via his various sponsorships.

Guisley train at Belle Vue.

Steve Parkin is a Wakefield Trinity fan, albeit from a distance rather than standing on the terraces.

Guisley have been promoted from the Unibond Premier to the Blue Square North where they have shot straight to the top or near the top of the table. This has fired the ambition of the Directors at Guisley, all wealthy men, who have a stated aim of taking Guisley as far up the Football League pyramid as they can. Their current ground will be a problem even though they built a new stand last year after a fire destroyed the old one.

They also see a long term problem, if they achieve the success they crave, in being a suburb of Leeds and therefore forever in the shadow of Leeds Utd.

Opportunities like buying a SL or even a potentially large Championship club who have a new stadium in the pipeline don't come around too often; especially ones relatively close to where you currently play. The added benefit of Wakefield being the largest city in the UK without Football League representation helps to build a case for relocating.

Like TRB says and as Vastman has also stated none of this may happen and we may just blink out of existence on the 2nd Feb only to be reborn as a Bramleyesque phoenix club. Ted Richardson might pull a spoon out of a jar, a la Tommy Cooper, and keep us afloat while staying in control of the club.

Steve Parkin might get up one morning and decide to sell up and emigrate to Australia....

Who knows?

We all have to wait and see but in the meantime this is a fans forum where we dream and speculate and argue and let of steam etc etc.

We live in interesting times!

RankPostsTeam
International Star764No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Nov 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



It is all rumour and speculation at the moment but we need something to cling on to at the moment. It's better than constantly thinking/doubting about the future existence of the club.

Keeping everything crossed!

icon_razz.gifRAY:

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1360No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: vastman "See that is what so annoys me on these forums. Just because you want it doesn't make it so!

I'd love it to be true but how do you know. Why do you assume that because he loves Guisely, race horses and LUFC he will feel the same about us - please explain - as poor old me can't see the connection! I personally have had enough of nods and winks and comments such as "great bloke" I'd rather the facts good or bad.

I say again tell me what's in it for him and how you know this and I'll gladly accept what you and others say - otherwise I'd be a fool - the sort of fool who believed Ted (I can safely assume you are one of the 99% of folk on here who always knew he was a wrongun)
Who said it was so? I never did, thats for sure.

I was joining in with light hearted speculation about it..... I have absolutely no idea about the man and his ethics and motives, except what I read in the 2 articles linked to on here. I have even less idea if it is true, and nowhere have I said it is going to happen, or even suggested there is any truth in what (at the moment) seems to be based on what 1 guy "has heard".

You asked me why a man who is clearly a shrude business man (and this much is a fact) would want to pour his money down our particular drain, suggesting that no like minded shrude business man would want to do such a thing.

I simply offered examples of other shrude business men who pour money down their particular chosen drains on a regular basis. You asked what was "in it for him", the answer is who knows, I assume you have as much knowledge of him as the rest of us. But what is absolutely certain is that sometimes very rich, succesful businessmen sometimes throw incredible amounts of money 'down the drain' on their own personal whims such as racing cars, charity and philanthropy, race horses, football clubs and rugby clubs and this guy appears to be one of these type of guys.

I answered your question - now you answer mine, whats in it for Lennegan, Davy, Moran, Caddick etc?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36110
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "Who said it was so? I never did, thats for sure.

I was joining in with light hearted speculation about it..... I have absolutely no idea about the man and his ethics and motives, except what I read in the 2 articles linked to on here. I have even less idea if it is true, and nowhere have I said it is going to happen, or even suggested there is any truth in what (at the moment) seems to be based on what 1 guy "has heard".

You asked me why a man who is clearly a shrude business man (and this much is a fact) would want to pour his money down our particular drain, suggesting that no like minded shrude business man would want to do such a thing.

I simply offered examples of other shrude business men who pour money down their particular chosen drains on a regular basis. You asked what was "in it for him", the answer is who knows, I assume you have as much knowledge of him as the rest of us. But what is absolutely certain is that sometimes very rich, succesful businessmen sometimes throw incredible amounts of money 'down the drain' on their own personal whims such as racing cars, charity and philanthropy, race horses, football clubs and rugby clubs and this guy appears to be one of these type of guys.

I answered your question - now you answer mine, whats in it for Lennegan, Davy, Moran, Caddick etc?'"


I won't because it's an unanswerable question.

Lennegan, Davy, Moran and Caddick are already in situ and it is clear that 3 out of the 4 are in it for paternalistic reasons rather than as a business venture, Due to the nature of Leeds RLFC it's more of a business decision for Caddick - Leeds being the only SL club that IMO offers a business opportunity of sorts. All the above have put there cash on the line as a matter of public record and thus their motives appear fairly obvious.

What some on here are doing is trying to second guess a man who hasn't as far as I'm aware made on single public utterance a the situation. They are taking various links and putting them together to create a scenario. This is fine but in this most heated of times it's better for all of us that scenarios don't become rumours don't become bogus facts as so often happens on here. Imagine the bloodletting on here if some get it into their heads that this is really happening only for it to be a total red herring - I couldn't bare to watch curtain.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach660
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I know a few of you are not fans of "wendyball" as you call it (why?), but if a football team relocated to Newmarket, I for one would be up for attending their games. Especially if they got into the BSP or Football League!

I'd still support Leeds United though!! Not quite sure how I square that one icon_confused.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach909No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Oct 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



An owner of a football team and rugby team at NM would be able to sell year round advertising, rather than two part year deals, the extra exposure to the football team advertisers during the Sky matches at NM would mean that the owner would be able to charge more, maximising income to the club.

By having a year round operation, it makes the stadium busier, the bars, shops, etc... busier, increasing income. Economies of scale mean that a year round specialist back room admin / management team would be best suited for the whole operation. See how the Rhinos/Tykes have developed with their joint set up. By being able to offer a greater usage of facilities means a greater bargaining power on prices, driving the two sports prices down.

If the football team get in the FL then the exposure on national tv would vastly increase their income potential, which would be a great asset to the whole operation. This would mean that interest in the joined up partnerships would be much more.

Also, grants are much more likely to be granted if they are to cover 'multi-sport' options, rather than just one individual sport. The community departments work can be better co-ordinated by having a partner within the same offices, etc..

I don't know whether this deal will occur, but the potential of working alongside a football team is massive, and an opportunity that the new owners whoever they are should investigate fully.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4809No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Would be interesting to see the split in revenues between the Stadium Trust and the tenants for advertising, ticketing, hospitality, concessions…

155 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
155 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.92236328125:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Film game
karetaker
5788
14m
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
31m
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
32m
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
15
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
196
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63280
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40814
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford
rubber ducki
61
1m
Rumours and signings v9
Big Steve
28905
1m
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
1m
Ground Improvements
vastman
203
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63280
1m
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
4m
Fixtures 2025
Wigan Bull
10
4m
Fixtures
Deadcowboys1
13
6m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
15
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,820 ↑10480,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Film game
karetaker
5788
14m
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
31m
2025 Shirt
NickyKiss
23
32m
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
15
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
196
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63280
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40814
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford
rubber ducki
61
1m
Rumours and signings v9
Big Steve
28905
1m
Shopping list for 2025
HU8HFC
5588
1m
Ground Improvements
vastman
203
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63280
1m
Transfer Talk V5
HucknallLoin
529
4m
Fixtures 2025
Wigan Bull
10
4m
Fixtures
Deadcowboys1
13
6m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2614
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squad numbers
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
15
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bully_Boxer
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!