Come on mutley, your better than that. People whos been on here a while say people start criticising peoples grammar when they've lost an argument. FWIW I was stood close by and although there was wrong on their parts they heavy handiness of the stewards where OTT.

I sang we all hate hull as did many of the elder generation I was stood near. TBF to these individuals they pay their money as you and I do to support our team "if they just wanted a fight there's plently to find round westgate with a beer", they do start chants and support the team.

I think they need to realise when enough is enough and calm it down and stop pretending their big and ard infront of their mates and a few lasses but wasnt too bad imo.

Ok. Bullet points

1) IS it not ok for us to sing we all hate hull. But other teams to sing we hate rhinos?
2) Its not goading its banter.
3) Why is it then, when we are so called 'druken and disorderly' that we are only refused entry at hull fc and hull kr.
4) I was thrown out, but hooligans fight and hve organised fights we don't
5) So its ok for stewards to throw lads who are 15-18 dwn stairs and bust open there faces.
6) We met the so called hull firm? Yet nothing happened singing, chanting and no fighting.
7) Lastly, last year at hull fc, a few members of our fans had a scuffle, why did nobody bring this point up? Because we are younger it means its different then?

I'm posting this on behalf of one of those within that crowdYou carn't say that it's 'that group' because if it was all of those stood there then surely they would have all been kicked out. People are assuming things when they wernt even there and dont know what happened, and saying you should ban them all of wisca is just stupid, because as i said, it wasnt everyone that was stood in that corner. Yeah, some of the language was out of order and stupid but it didnt deserve what happened and for everyone to jump on ther backs about it, and calling them 'thugs' and 'chavs' is just ridiculous, when people there did nothing wrong at all and your branding them as the same.'"

we were thrown out because of taking my top off.
Next i knew, a female steward with blonde hair goes your out. I then left the ground, to find my friend had been locked up due to a so called scuffle. Supposedly he was trying to ask the steward what was occuring.
But due to the bouncing and singin he was pushed and he is now being tried for assault.
I forone will be going up to hull to see what he verdict is

In saying this I was just trying to point out that the general tone of the group from the start was antagonistic which is probably why the stewards were attracted to that area in the first place. Thankfully I was too far away to see the whole sequence of events as to why fans were thrown out etc.

Come on .. the other songs that could be classed as antagonistic were "you'll never catch a cod" and other versions like this. The other week I went to the cas match and there was people of ALL ages singing the "youre uncle is your .... the tigers family der der der" and there wasnt complaints on here about these type of crude songs (which I didnt sing may I add), and there was nothing sang on friday that went over the aforementioned song sung at cas.

fair points.
But i feel the word hooligan is far too strong.
Hooligans only go to fight, and no fighting happened as far as i know.
Maybe we had a little bit to drink and were out of hand but thats what you do as teenagers and learn from it.
I for probably will not be coming to games again as i feel tha most people feel we are not needed at the club

Get off it mate, as you have just said "you have to learn from your mistakes" and if you do that then you are needed at this club we need all the true fans who travel to matches pay there money and you wouldnt pay the money to get there and into ground unless you liked your rugby.

Get to next game and dont make the same mistakes, and you'll be welcomed from me anyway.

Like I said it was the nasty undertone at that point which I found scary to be honest. Maybe I am wrong but at that point it felt that it could have led to more serious crowd trouble and to me it was not a nice feeling when its a game we all love and want to enjoy and shake hands afterwards etc.

If you did nothing wrong mate then it don't matter what people say.

Our lot have had our fair share of stick but we still go, at the end of day everyone goes for same reason because we love the club.

At least you know what not to do next time you got to Hull etc

I'll tell you why the 'We all hate XYZ' chants should be left to rest - we, in the last six months, have lost two members of our playing squad, and in the last year had a number of players who are part of the foundations of this club. Let's have a bit of respect for the players who take to the field for all teams and support our own lads rather than denigrate others.

I don't like Bradford, there are other teams I'm not particularly fond of, but I love my club and I support my club. They aren't perfect, they do things which annoy me, but jeez, I am a Wakefield Trinity Wildcats supporter, and rather than use phrases like 'never has beens' like I have in the past, I' going to be as positive as I can be about those men that take to the field with my hopes and dreams on their backs.

You go back and look at the posts on the threads about Walker and Watene and see supporters from all clubs on there offering support and condolence - and then sing 'We all hate XYZ'

I'm really annoyed about all this, probably too much, but I don't want to see the goodwill and good name our club has do to waste cos a few idiots can't hold a drink and enjoy the game without swearing, goading and generally being offensive.

If a steward tells you to sit down, you sit down. If they tell you to stop swearing, you stop swearing. If they tell you to keep your shirt on, you keep your shirt on. You don't listen to them - tough.

If you genuinely believe you shouldn't have been kicked out of the stadium - write to the SMC, to both clubs and explain why. Don't try to justify yourselves on here, sort it with those who have 'wronged' you.

not sure who has used the word hooligan , to me that is the likes of the old leeds utd service crew. You should still go to games but channel your enthusiasm and voices in the right direction.