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I think Cain has developed ideas above his staton, he's seen the departure of Danny Brough and when he was'nt immediately elevated to the 1st team it has increased his sense of being underappreciated.

He also has some misleading examples to look to when trying to fathom his stalled rise to 1st team selection, ie. his dad and uncle, who were promoted to 1st team at Cas at a very early age, that was then and this is now Cain!

I don't think Cain is physicaly strong enough for SL yet and I can use myself as an example, I was 17 yrs and 3 days old when I played stand off at 1st team level, I was 6'0" and 14st 7Ibs and I struggled with the physicality of long term expsure to that standard of footall. Cain is nowhere near being physicaly developed for the top tier of Rugby League, another example comes from the recent Wests v Parra game where Phil Gould comments on the stunted career of Benji Marshall. Injuries caused Mrshalls career to wain and those injuries were due to his body being ill prepared for the exposure to the NRL. six Knee and two shoulder reconstructions later, whilst his brilliance has never been in question, he is only now beginning to cope with the physicality of the game.

Cain will have to learn and learn quick that he needs to be part of a team and that he will have to wait until the coaches think he's ready hwether he agrees with them or not, if he can't do this then the next kid behind him will get there first.

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Been told today that Hyde is pretty close to SL ready, where as southernwood was probably a season or more behind!!!
Also a good attitude!

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Quote: Fordy "BJ, Obst, Cooke, Wildie, Davey (who has played there for the reserves I think), Hyde (the new guy coming in from Bradford) can play there apparently.

I wouldn't say we were short of options.'"


I don't think we are short of options as such, I just don't think we are have them beating down the door to play in the halves.

Those players are expected to cover 6, 7 and 9 and many of them either prefer hooker, or have at least been used there for so long it is now their default position.

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Quote: The Clan "I think Cain has developed ideas above his staton, he's seen the departure of Danny Brough and when he was'nt immediately elevated to the 1st team it has increased his sense of being underappreciated.

He also has some misleading examples to look to when trying to fathom his stalled rise to 1st team selection, ie. his dad and uncle, who were promoted to 1st team at Cas at a very early age, that was then and this is now Cain!

I don't think Cain is physicaly strong enough for SL yet and I can use myself as an example, I was 17 yrs and 3 days old when I played stand off at 1st team level, I was 6'0" and 14st 7Ibs and I struggled with the physicality of long term expsure to that standard of footall. Cain is nowhere near being physicaly developed for the top tier of Rugby League, another example comes from the recent Wests v Parra game where Phil Gould comments on the stunted career of Benji Marshall. Injuries caused Mrshalls career to wain and those injuries were due to his body being ill prepared for the exposure to the NRL. six Knee and two shoulder reconstructions later, whilst his brilliance has never been in question, he is only now beginning to cope with the physicality of the game.

Cain will have to learn and learn quick that he needs to be part of a team and that he will have to wait until the coaches think he's ready hwether he agrees with them or not, if he can't do this then the next kid behind him will get there first.'"


eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif thanks for that..since when are we dictated to by a 17 year old not even been there yet?
would love to know why southernwood was the only person to attend the season launch, anybody in the know please explain!

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this is a poor deal!

very poor!

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Quote: underground "this is a poor deal!

very poor!'"


why???

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Watch the relative development of their careers over the next few years and we will discuss why!

Injury aside... Southernwood will develop into interational class... Hyde will be playing amateur rugby within 2 years. The gulf in class is huge!


awful deal!


but hey thats just one mans opinion... hope to god I am wrong!

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Quote: underground "Watch the relative development of their careers over the next few years and we will discuss why!

Injury aside... Southernwood will develop into interational class... Hyde will be playing amateur rugby within 2 years. The gulf in class is huge!


awful deal!


but hey thats just one mans opinion... hope to god I am wrong!'"
having seen Southernwood play their is something there to develop as he ages but what makes you think Hyde will be in amateur rugby within 2 years have you been following his career or is this on here say,

I too would of like he to stay but if he has the urge to move on you can't stop them as good as they are, money talks but we've not really got a bulging wallet have we

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I wonder if the signing of Hyde will allow Murphy to play his preferred position of centre

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Beans told me he was with the England Academy set up doing some fitness testing.............

That could be bow locks though icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: underground "Watch the relative development of their careers over the next few years and we will discuss why!

Injury aside... Southernwood will develop into interational class... Hyde will be playing amateur rugby within 2 years. The gulf in class is huge!


awful deal!


but hey thats just one mans opinion... hope to god I am wrong!'"

international class my buttocks, instead of eastmond or myler, or tompkins, or did you mean on the playstation where he spent most of his time.

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The problem is Southernwood may well be an international in 2 years or whatever, however, he didn't want to be an international with us. What's the French for "C'est la vie?"

Why any player thinks they'd develop better under McNamara than Kear I have no idea!

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Quote: underground "Watch the relative development of their careers over the next few years and we will discuss why!

Injury aside... Southernwood will develop into interational class... Hyde will be playing amateur rugby within 2 years. The gulf in class is huge!


awful deal!


but hey thats just one mans opinion... hope to god I am wrong!'"


Afraid you are way off on this one Underground, way to long down under.

No way will Southernwood be an international, not in a million years and I back myself on that. With his attitude and lack of physical presence he will be lucky to make it in SL.

Talent which he has simply isn't enough and when your club effectively shows you the door what does that tell you.

Mopsey is spot on with this one. Also if I'm correct on this both the players involved played in the same Stanley team and their coach has very strong opinions on who is the better.

I think you may have swallowed the hype on this one.

Brough
Newton
Tronc

these are losses

Southernwood is no such thing.

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Think we may have missed a jem there TBH.

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Quote: TFC "Think we may have missed a jem there TBH.'"


A Gem with an attitude problem at such a young age?

Nah.

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