FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Versus Fev
132 posts in 10 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36101
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: phe13 "Good performance from Feath last weekend (better than us anyway) and it looks like they are having a real go for SL, with 3 new additions today.


This is a double edged sword and reminds me of our promotion team. It is more than capable of gaining promotion. It’s full of players past their peak but still more than capable especially at Championship level. However once in SL that team would have to be completely rebuilt and that’s not easy even for a rich club.

It’s worth noting that for the last 20 minutes Fev were wllting and we were visibly stronger and fitter, had we shown an ounce of composure we could and should have won. Fev hung on because our ineptitude in attack kept giving them renewed vigour but that was a friendly, to replicate that ten or more times to stay in SL is a massive ask.

I don’t blame Fev and they have to get into SL to at least give it a go but it’s a fine line. As Phantom has stated, every time they get a young prospect they lose him and that’s the curse of a promotion seeking team. We were hugely lucky in our early SL years as we did manage to save a few kids and have some depth but it was tight.

Hope Fev do come up but the team that emerges will need to be very different from the one they have now in my opinion.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20426No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
5733_1599791508.jpeg
Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5733.jpeg



Quote: vastman "This is a double edged sword and reminds me of our promotion team. It is more than capable of gaining promotion. It’s full of players past their peak but still more than capable especially at Championship level. However once in SL that team would have to be completely rebuilt and that’s not easy even for a rich club.

It’s worth noting that for the last 20 minutes Fev were wllting and we were visibly stronger and fitter, had we shown an ounce of composure we could and should have won. Fev hung on because our ineptitude in attack kept giving them renewed vigour but that was a friendly, to replicate that ten or more times to stay in SL is a massive ask.

I don’t blame Fev and they have to get into SL to at least give it a go but it’s a fine line. As Phantom has stated, every time they get a young prospect they lose him and that’s the curse of a promotion seeking team. We were hugely lucky in our early SL years as we did manage to save a few kids and have some depth but it was tight.

Hope Fev do come up but the team that emerges will need to be very different from the one they have now in my opinion.'"


I agree re rebuilding the team, they have a few players who could do a job in SL but they would need 20+ new players which is difficult to achieve when you are picking up the scraps from what is left once the established SL teams have had their pick.

I think the last 20 was more to do with our bench than Fev wilting though. I haven't rewatched the game but on the day it felt like we put on players who were at the younger end of our senior squad and who hadnt had game time prior to that such as Aydin and Batch and others who had, had a good rest whereas Fev had to reintroduce the likes of Moores and Seni Laffao. I also think the younger lads brought a level of enthusiasm that the more established fist team players failed to show for the first 60 minutes.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36101
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: jonh "I agree re rebuilding the team, they have a few players who could do a job in SL but they would need 20+ new players which is difficult to achieve when you are picking up the scraps from what is left once the established SL teams have had their pick.

I think the last 20 was more to do with our bench than Fev wilting though. I haven't rewatched the game but on the day it felt like we put on players who were at the younger end of our senior squad and who hadnt had game time prior to that such as Aydin and Batch and others who had, had a good rest whereas Fev had to reintroduce the likes of Moores and Seni Laffao. I also think the younger lads brought a level of enthusiasm that the more established fist team players failed to show for the first 60 minutes.'"


Well, we all see it differently but from where I was stood Fev were on the rack or at least should have been in the last 20, they looked tired to me. We looked energised but lacking in ideas, mainly because Miller thought he would be a playmaker, he is a great little player but I think most agree that he can't run a game, he needs to step back from that one. Gaskell has taken some stick but Miller didn't help him, they certainly didn't seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet, It's a shame because we know exactly what Miller is capable of whereas we don't know Gaskell's true potential. It needed to be the Gaskell show and it wasn't.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20426No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
5733_1599791508.jpeg
Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5733.jpeg



Quote: vastman "Well, we all see it differently but from where I was stood Fev were on the rack or at least should have been in the last 20, they looked tired to me. We looked energised but lacking in ideas, mainly because Miller thought he would be a playmaker, he is a great little player but I think most agree that he can't run a game, he needs to step back from that one. Gaskell has taken some stick but Miller didn't help him, they certainly didn't seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet, It's a shame because we know exactly what Miller is capable of whereas we don't know Gaskell's true potential. It needed to be the Gaskell show and it wasn't.'"


No I agree they were flagging but they were having to rotate players back on who had already played big minutes like you would do in a normal game.

We were bringing on lads off the bench on 60 minutes who hadn't had any game time (at least I don't they had) due to the size of our named squad.

I think Gaskill showed some really classy touches and looked more direct than Milky but he just wasn't in the game enough for me.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6981No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Top six 2005 - Trinity.:



Quote: vastman "Well, we all see it differently but from where I was stood Fev were on the rack or at least should have been in the last 20, they looked tired to me. We looked energised but lacking in ideas, mainly because Miller thought he would be a playmaker, he is a great little player but I think most agree that he can't run a game, he needs to step back from that one. Gaskell has taken some stick but Miller didn't help him, they certainly didn't seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet, It's a shame because we know exactly what Miller is capable of whereas we don't know Gaskell's true potential. It needed to be the Gaskell show and it wasn't.'"


Leigh looked gassed at one point mid second half and we were starting to get a foothold. Then the extremely harsh Fifita incident happened in possession and that seemed to breathe some life back into Fev. That was the turning point for me.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1443
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 20205 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Trojan Horse "Leigh looked gassed at one point mid second half and we were starting to get a foothold. Then the extremely harsh Fifita incident happened in possession and that seemed to breathe some life back into Fev. That was the turning point for me.'"



Heck I didn't realise Leigh were out there as well - no wander we lost ! icon_biggrin.gif

FSW
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain238No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Do Featherstone have deep reserves of financial backing or are they applying the Bradford principle to their expenditure?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6981No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Top six 2005 - Trinity.:



Quote: 1315trinity "Heck I didn't realise Leigh were out there as well - no wander we lost !
icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_surprised.gifops: Heaven knows why I typed Leigh lol. Must have been having a moment icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36101
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: FSW "Do Featherstone have deep reserves of financial backing or are they applying the Bradford principle to their expenditure?'"


Makes you wonder, that's a heck of a wage list for a part-time club.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6981No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Top six 2005 - Trinity.:



Quote: FSW "Do Featherstone have deep reserves of financial backing or are they applying the Bradford principle to their expenditure?'"


It looks like they’re going all out and pushing their upper limits to finally get that SL place this year. If they don’t make it this season I fully expect they’ll scale back a little the following season. Speculate to accumulate. To be fair though I hope fev come up. More local derbies for trin the better.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach36101
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10363_1334937642.jpg
SUPPORT SWAG...:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10363.jpg



Quote: Trojan Horse "It looks like they’re going all out and pushing their upper limits to finally get that SL place this year. If they don’t make it this season I fully expect they’ll scale back a little the following season. Speculate to accumulate. To be fair though I hope fev come up. More local derbies for trin the better.'"


You mean to gamble and possibly break the rules and eventually bankrupt your club.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1084No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



The management at Featherstone have repeatedly talked about their massively-improved income streams over recent seasons, with sponsorship the leading factor (the press conference yesterday was told of £250k in new sponsorship since the reduced funding was announced last year).

Add to that 1,500 season tickets (and the price this year is far from cheap at £240, so there's probably upwards of £300k there), the income from allowing Wakefield AFC to use the ground, from staging BARLA finals days etc, a successful Squad Builder programme, and all the income from conferences, weddings, beer and food sales at the ground, sales from the on-site superstore...there are a lot of revenue streams at Fev these days.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11580
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Don't thing anybody denies how rich the club may be, but are wondering if your club operates under the salary cap.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4927
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3634.jpg
[IMG]//i50.tinypic.com/a59ff5.gif[/IMG]:3634.jpg



Quote: The Phantom Horseman "The management at Featherstone have repeatedly talked about their massively-improved income streams over recent seasons, with sponsorship the leading factor (the press conference yesterday was told of £250k in new sponsorship since the reduced funding was announced last year).

Add to that 1,500 season tickets (and the price this year is far from cheap at £240, so there's probably upwards of £300k there), the income from allowing Wakefield AFC to use the ground, from staging BARLA finals days etc, a successful Squad Builder programme, and all the income from conferences, weddings, beer and food sales at the ground, sales from the on-site superstore...there are a lot of revenue streams at Fev these days.'"


Is there an income from selling the surrounding land around PO Road a factor by selling to housing developer?

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21024
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Maybe Fev are just managing their finances well.
I don't think it's fair just call them cheats because they have a good squad.
There are a wide range of players in their squad. Not all are on big wages.

132 posts in 10 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
132 posts in 10 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.81640625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
8m
Catalan Away
jonh
5
20m
Assistant Coach - Langley
Highlander
29
22m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Marcus's Bic
4011
38m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
38m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
47m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
48m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
50m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
Recent
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
Highlander
29
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
2m
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
4m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
4m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
Highlander
29
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
314
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
507
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1257
England's Women Demolish The W..
1083
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1321
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1111
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1369
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1912
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2132
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2374
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2184
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2076
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,931 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
8m
Catalan Away
jonh
5
20m
Assistant Coach - Langley
Highlander
29
22m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Marcus's Bic
4011
38m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40731
38m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
47m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
48m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
50m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
Recent
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
YosemiteSam
8
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
Highlander
29
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
2m
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
4m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
4m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
Highlander
29
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
314
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
507
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1257
England's Women Demolish The W..
1083
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1321
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1111
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1369
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1912
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2132
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2374
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2184
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2076
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!