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| Not sure Elstone has a grip on good negotiating tactics informing potential investors that you are looking for a quick outcome leaves it open to 'well that's what we are offering take it or leave it' perhaps he should have said we are looking for the best outcome for SL and the investor and will negotiate accordingly. His words appear a little desperate!
The RFU deal of £200m looks good but who knows, as for what value a potential investor would put on SL I'm guessing £200m is not it.
SL and the RFL do not get the media coverage that the RFU do and that's a big part of the value and these people are investing to make money it will not be goodwill, vanity or I love SL it's profit that they are after
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The RFU has just staged a brilliant WC, we have just concluded a squalid tour of NZ. Where are there any similarities between the two games, it’s all fantasy. I may be wrong but I fail to see a single part of RL that would be attractive to an investor who’s primary role is making money, I just don’t.
One thing I’m even more certain of is if that did happen the first casualties would be clubs like us.
The only way it makes sense is if they cherry pick the top SL clubs and create a hybrid game with the top Union clubs. It makes total sense then business wise but not for clubs like us not even if we get the finest new stand ever built.
If it happens it will be an utterly one sided deal that will eventually see the end of RL imho.
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The RFU has just staged a brilliant WC, we have just concluded a squalid tour of NZ. Where are there any similarities between the two games, it’s all fantasy. I may be wrong but I fail to see a single part of RL that would be attractive to an investor who’s primary role is making money, I just don’t.
One thing I’m even more certain of is if that did happen the first casualties would be clubs like us.
The only way it makes sense is if they cherry pick the top SL clubs and create a hybrid game with the top Union clubs. It makes total sense then business wise but not for clubs like us not even if we get the finest new stand ever built.
If it happens it will be an utterly one sided deal that will eventually see the end of RL imho.
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| Quote Fishermanscap="Fishermanscap"The RFU has just staged a brilliant WC, we have just concluded a squalid tour of NZ. Where are there any similarities between the two games, it’s all fantasy. I may be wrong but I fail to see a single part of RL that would be attractive to an investor who’s primary role is making money, I just don’t.
One thing I’m even more certain of is if that did happen the first casualties would be clubs like us.
The only way it makes sense is if they cherry pick the top SL clubs and create a hybrid game with the top Union clubs. It makes total sense then business wise but not for clubs like us not even if we get the finest new stand ever built.
If it happens it will be an utterly one sided deal that will eventually see the end of RL imho.'"
I don't agree with your hybrid game part but I agree with the rest.
I honestly can't see an investor identifying profit potential without expansion.
We need to prepare for this so that we are seen as a big city sleeping giant, not a low income village team based in a city. How? That's the tough question. Ground would be a start.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I don't agree with your hybrid game part but I agree with the rest.
I honestly can't see an investor identifying profit potential without expansion.
We need to prepare for this so that we are seen as a big city sleeping giant, not a low income village team based in a city. How? That's the tough question. Ground would be a start.'"
I should have added, if it’s the same investors, which is what’s been suggested, then I suspect you see where I’m coming from regarding a hybrid game. Overnight you have a truly national game that could start to rival football. I’m guessing that’s how these people think.
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| Quote Fishermanscap="Fishermanscap"I should have added, if it’s the same investors, which is what’s been suggested, then I suspect you see where I’m coming from regarding a hybrid game. Overnight you have a truly national game that could start to rival football. I’m guessing that’s how these people think.'"
I don't think they'd bother.
If they really wanted one game they would just kill ours.
Why alienate all the RU fans? The hybrid wouldn't be accepted by them either.
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| I would agree I dont really see an angle for the investors if its solely just RL based, other than we are a low budget sport with potential to grow. That aside if the club did get a windfall then it presents an opportunity to fund redevelopment, and I would hope this is where it would go rather than mercenary marquee players.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"I would agree I dont really see an angle for the investors if its solely just RL based, other than we are a low budget sport with potential to grow.'"
An astute investor however, would question why, if we had that potential, hasn't it already been realised?
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"An astute investor however, would question why, if we had that potential, hasn't it already been realised?'"
Although they (investors) may not be prevalent in RL, for most investors, a chance to buy when something is cheap and not maximising it's potential should be the ideal time to invest.
Buy cheap, invest and then sell at a profit.
For me, RL is still one of the best sports on the planet and "our" inability to sell this to the masses has been a mystery.
Are those at the top frightened of genuine competition and happy to be "big fish" in a small pond or, is there really no appetite for the sport outside of the established pockets of interest.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I don't think they'd bother.
If they really wanted one game they would just kill ours.
Why alienate all the RU fans? The hybrid wouldn't be accepted by them either.'"
That's pretty much what I meant, basically RU with perhaps a few minor tweaks to speed it up a little, the term 'hybrid' was perhaps a little generous.
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| Going back to our new stadium and i know it as been mentioned before and i think one of the football teams did it, The name on a brick for
£100 if and that's a big IF, If we could get the hardcore fans 4k to invest £100 for their name onto a brick that's £400.000 towards the help of the new ground surely that's needs looking at doing.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Although they (investors) may not be prevalent in RL, for most investors, a chance to buy when something is cheap and not maximising it's potential should be the ideal time to invest.
Buy cheap, invest and then sell at a profit.
For me, RL is still one of the best sports on the planet and "our" inability to sell this to the masses has been a mystery.
Are those at the top frightened of genuine competition and happy to be "big fish" in a small pond or, is there really no appetite for the sport outside of the established pockets of interest.'"
I can easily explain that it's Northern and it's genuinely working class. For all the woke talk in the South by which I mean London regarding inclusiveness, the two things they despise the most are northerners and the working-class in general, both of which we possess in spades. This is not a political thing, it goes far deeper than that. Added to that, our own 'Northern' politicians are even worse possessing a kind of inverted snobbery stroke embarrassment regarding the most 'Northern' of games, just look at Box, you could see he despised our oafish game with a passion, only paying lip service to Cas to garner votes.
Sammy Davis Junior once said after converting to Judaism that as a black midget Jew the only way was up, he really should have added being a RL fan for true pathos 
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