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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Yes I have - on a regular basis - and I don't agree with you that litigation is always the last and final resort; if your opponent has shown that they're not interested in dialogue, then it's sometimes the only thing you can do.
All that said, I've no doubt that the club, or the Trust, or whomever is handling the matter, can't afford litigation, and YCP will be very aware of that; so the next best thing is to hand it to the Government dept who have also been duped, and let them deal with it.'"
YCP are too clever to just walk away - hence all the time taken to get to this point. There does come a point where the talking has to stop and hard facts put down in writing - which is what we are seeking.
YCP may also not be worried about a bunch of 'tree hugging Wakefield supporters', or our equivalent, but other parties maybe. It all depends on who you are talking about when it comes to deciding what they have to lose. The council will not want this on their doorstep - we know they hate bad publicity and the press will be our weapon in this respect. YCP is a different matter.
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| Quote wakeytrin="wakeytrin"Sir Rodney Walker'"
He's been involved since day one hadn't he?
Look where we are.
That's not a criticism, just that we need some new "clout".
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"He's been involved since day one hadn't he?
Look where we are.
That's not a criticism, just that we need some new "clout".'"
With the Tour de France done with hopefully he can fully concentrate on delivering a stadium for his City, Sir Rodney Walker isn't the kind of person to give in easily. He saved the Theatre now he can deliver a sporting theatre for Wakefield.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Yes I have - on a regular basis - and I don't agree with you that litigation is always the last and final resort; if your opponent has shown that they're not interested in dialogue, then it's sometimes the only thing you can do.
All that said, I've no doubt that the club, or the Trust, or whomever is handling the matter, can't afford litigation, and YCP will be very aware of that; so the next best thing is to hand it to the Government dept who have also been duped, and let them deal with it.'"
I agree but dialogue has to be tried first before commencing expensive litigation, we are not at that stage yet. I doubt the Government will be interested if our own Council is not showing a great deal of interest - yet.
As I have said before please trust us, be patient and be prepared to get behind us because "we are in this together".
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| Council can also keep the " can't build on Belle Vue unless alternative stadium within City is built" safeguarding B V for us
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| Quote TRB="TRB"There does come a point where the talking has to stop and hard facts put down in writing - which is what we are seeking.'"
How much seeking has to be done to write a letter?
I'm not having a pop at you TRB, or the other volunteers who are doing their bit, but how many meetings will YCP duck and dive their way through before someone involved says, "enough - we'll refer it to the SoS and let them decide how to progress?"
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"How much seeking has to be done to write a letter?
I'm not having a pop at you TRB, or the other volunteers who are doing their bit, but how many meetings will YCP duck and dive their way through before someone involved says, "enough - we'll refer it to the SoS and let them decide how to progress?"'"
It is more complicated than it sounds on here, but you are right in essence.
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| Quote TRB="TRB"It is more complicated than it sounds on here, but you are right in essence.'"
Again, from the outside looking in.
Maybe that's part of the issue, maybe it's not that complicated, take a step back from it and look from a distance, it's clear that YCP need 'shotgun wedding' tactics before they'll do the right thing.
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| Quote TRB="TRB"It is more complicated than it sounds on here, but you are right in essence.'"
At the risk of looking dafter than usual.
How can York Court be in a position to move away from what was promised and what we understood to be an absolute certainty that a new stadium would be built at Newmarket.
Again, at the risk of looking stupid, what was the point of the P.I. if there was even the smallest possibility of them being able to walk away from this and leaving another developer to "do very well" out of a deal, which was less than popular with local residents.
Although there are no certainties in life, apart form birth and death, the perception at the time of the PI was that the new ground was a cast iron certainty, with only the timing and size of the stadium that were open to some change.
All Wakefield supporters know and appreciate the time and effort that you have personally devoted to the cause but, is it even possible that it could end with nothing (apart from a small community facility) ?
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| The S106 has a loophole which allows Yorkcourt to build the enabling development under different planning applications meaning so that none of the built sheds count towards the target specified in the agreement. The cold store that's under construction right now for example won't count towards this target. I suppose the leverage is currently the plans allow for a stadium and only a stadium. This plot would make another rather large industrial unit so perhaps there's some scope with that.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"The S106 has a loophole which allows Yorkcourt to build the enabling development under different planning applications meaning so that none of the built sheds count towards the target specified in the agreement. The cold store that's under construction right now for example won't count towards this target. I suppose the leverage is currently the plans allow for a stadium and only a stadium. This plot would make another rather large industrial unit so perhaps there's some scope with that.'"
Unless they just fence it off, leave it for god knows how many years, then apply for change of use once the fuss dies down. Whilst in the meantime living off the lovely profits garnered from all the separate 'one-off' builds. And the councils legal 'experts' missed this?
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Again, from the outside looking in.
Maybe that's part of the issue, maybe it's not that complicated, take a step back from it and look from a distance, it's clear that YCP need 'shotgun wedding' tactics before they'll do the right thing.'"
It depends who's holding the shotgun!
Sorry for being cryptic.
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