Was going to say David Wrench !!!

But of course... Rinaldi.

My bad.

I know a court found him guilty of assault, and that there are good reasons why people are tried in front of impartial juries rather than friends who 'know them so well'. I know he publicly posted some pretty awful stuff that would get most people sacked who work in any sphere where their employer expects them to uphold public face. I'm not really in a position to comment on the last one, but your take on it would appear bland understatement.

I'm sure there were people who could vouch that Fred West built lovely extensions, but it is the burying bodies under patios people remember him for.

Supporting Wakey 30+ years I like rumours because they are usually better than reality. I'm just hoping like mad we get a licence if not just hope we a good business plan and NM comes off so we can get back on SL at the next earliest opportunity. Saying that if franchises are handed out fairly we should be in due to the strength of our app compared to others

Latest one I have heard is that Quins are pulling the plug and voluntarily dropping down, and that we too are getting the boot, to be replaced by 'Fax ...time will tell I suppose....

On his past record it would be a pointless exercise then.

I try not to take any notice of rumour,hearsay and conspiracy theories cos as a Wakey fan it usually ends in heartache,as we all know too well,but this time it is different.
At the start of the season I like 99.9% of us had resigned myself to the fact that a new licence was well beyond us but then came the takeover and AG.This renewed a little hope and after the CC meeting and the proposals for BV I thought we were again in with a chance cos it would put us back fighting with Cas(except for admin)which we have been told does not count after Crusaders went belly up but after this week all that has changed AGAIN.
We are playing possibly the worst rugby,both attacking and defensively that we have ever played since entering SL,the players are not interested and the club has stopped communicating,apart from making crap signings(Tadulala).
This does make me think we have been told the outcome and that the fat lady is well and truly blasting out a song and Cas have also been told.
We have been linked with no players for next season but yet Cas are signing their players to 3 year deals and if they weren't certain to stay in SL surely players would wait 3 weeks to find out the outcome.Add to this that several top coaches(well Noble anyway)have been linked and it looks like the decision has already been made.
No members of the press or the RL community give us a hope in hell and it is just a formality on the 26th and it STINKS.

as a fax fan, i would be very surprised if we get a super league place, but i also say we are alot closer than vastman thinks, for me you cannot compare our u23's setup with a super league club, at the moment our stadium is far better than cas's or wakey's, we are more than just an average championship club, (just look at our record over the last couple of years) Champ runners-up 2009, champ winners 2010, NRC finalist 2011)
our crowds have stagnated for me becuase nobody expect us to go up and floating fans can't ever see us in super league again. if wakey do come down, your crowds will fall without a doubt. if we go up our crowds will def increase, i believe as a club if fax were in super league, we would bring just/compete as much as yourself/cas/crusaders/quins/bradford and Salford.

I work in wakefield and have a few wakey fans. for me i really do hope you get to stay in super league

It's not a case of how close you are, you simply can't be as close as either ourselves or Cas. The award of a SL spot went as agreed to the best application from the Championship - that just means they are the best team available it doesn't make them better than the existing team as far as I can see - as it happens they are IMO Widnes are the only Championship team able to meet SL requirements. There is no provision for a second promoted club especially one that doesn't meet all criteria or match any of the existing teams. Go for Fax and the SL gains nothing by their own criteria where as with Widnes they get the all important Stadium with all those empty seats - I just can't think of a scenario in which they would do that even if Crusaders went bust and that extra spot became available.

If it were up to me I'd have Fax up in a shot and I believe they would eventually do OK and dump London or better still Crusaders. Sadly I'm just a fan of 25 years and my opinion counts for little.

To be fair halifax offer more in terms of stadia, to Assume anything make an ass out me and u!

Yes, it's never wise to assmeu anything...

Have also heard the Quins rumour though I doubt the RFL would want them to go to the lower division. Still think we are favourites for the chop though not on merit but because we are situated around so many SL cubs. Would think, though not agree, if London did take a step down then Halifax would come up!