I can't say I despise anyone. Certainly not players who just play the sport I love.

I think you can respect great achievement even when it's not your team.

But I want us to be the best team in every game. Not always the case but that's sport.

I would normally tend to agree here PT.

There were some very unsavoury comments aimed our way from their, following the financial issues we had at the start of the millenium.

Around that same time there was a lack of trust between certain folk of Yorkshire CC and Leeds Rugby Ltd.

Maybe they weren't whiter than white

Shudds will always hold a special place within my loathing glands but have really been superseded at the top my hate plinth by Hull KR over the last couple of years.

Don't think the Saints club or it's fans do themselves any favours either but it's all pantomime villain stuff there.

I do enjoy bad news for Salford too. That started with their covid scams.

If you want to set a benchmark on the playing front, one good set of short videos to watch was a series from about 3 years ago, called Preparing The Panthers. It touches on training, diet, rehab etc

Its also good for positive mindset for those who generally want to get fitter.

I've watched them myself a few times if I want to get a bit leaner

Here they are https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHQO ... 6lq3ls9F1v

Here they are https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHQO ... 6lq3ls9F1v

So why are you ok watching the Panthers documentary but not Leeds?

I may not like them, but I never said I'm not OK watching it.

My earlier comments regarding the financial irregularities as it was called back then left a sour note

Nice to see Wigan not included in anyone's hate/loathe list.
I knew there'd be advantages to being dual-reg partners!

How things change over the years. Think neutrals general dislike of Saints helps with a more positive outlook towards Wigan but also what's not to like about Field and French.

I've always liked Wigan. They do things the right way.
Apart from a couple of comments from Wane I've usually found them respectful whether winning or losing.

Agreed.

One thing I don't mind about Wigan these daysis the fact they're not affraid of blooding their young players, I'd say they do so more than Saints.

Also, the coach is quite grounded, wasn't a big name when he came in, but respected locally

True EW, but let’s not forget that they have the pick of the crop come scholarship time , venturing over the tops to cherry pick our local talent, even taking from under Rhinos noses.

Such an easy league to fall into.. Extremely hard to get out of …