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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "But what if the play-the-ball was on the twenty metre line and the hooker can boom it back to someone 45 metres out? The players charging down the kick will start more than thirty metres away. It makes for some interesting dynamics.
JD doesn't think it will be utilised much. Most will go wide, leading to a seven-tackle set starting on the twenty, which could be game-ending with five minutes to go, where the other side have seven tackles to get it down field and play it down there, and even put themselves in a one-point scenario to take it away from the long drop goal option when two ahead.
I reckon in reality it will be one of those last gasp thrillers to tie a game. If a team is only one-point ahead, they have clearly got a drop goal at some point, so if they can win due to a twenty-yard drop goal, why can't someone win it with a fifty yard one?
As I type, it's growing on me.'"
How do you get a 1 point scenario? And a team is 1 point ahead?
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| Quote: FIL "Those rules only apply to the NRL (at the moment !!)
Rugby league is the only sport I have followed all my life, therefore I’m ignorant of rules for most other sports. I know Australian NRL have some rules different to RFL, so is our game the only sport worldwide, that play to a different set of rules, depending which part of the world you play in?
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Rugby league is the only sport I have followed all my life, therefore I’m ignorant of rules for most other sports. I know Australian NRL have some rules different to RFL, so is our game the only sport worldwide, that play to a different set of rules, depending which part of the world you play in?'"
I think you are right. I can't think of another example.
I'm sure there interpretation differences, like what constitutes a penalty when the rule is vague but not how you score points.
I don't think you should be abkd to do that and call your sport rugby league until international board approved it for everyone.
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| Quote: Cokey "How do you get a 1 point scenario? And a team is 1 point ahead?
The two-pointer is only when over 40 metres away.
So, a team is two-points ahead, the long-range drop is missed. The other team get a seven-tackle set and are able to get within twenty metres and pop over a quick-one-pointer, making it three ahead and taking away the last-gasp two-point drop goal option.
And if a team is one-point ahead, they must have to have kicked a drop goal, as the only way a team can have an odd number as a score is to kick a drop-goal. So, if they can win by a short drop goal, it seems fair that a team can overtake the one-point advantage by an even longer one.
Unless I'm missing something.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "The two-pointer is only when over 40 metres away.
So, a team is two-points ahead, the long-range drop is missed. The other team get a seven-tackle set and are able to get within twenty metres and pop over a quick-one-pointer, making it three ahead and taking away the last-gasp two-point drop goal option.
And if a team is one-point ahead, they must have to have kicked a drop goal, as the only way a team can have an odd number as a score is to kick a drop-goal. So, if they can win by a short drop goal, it seems fair that a team can overtake the one-point advantage by an even longer one.
Unless I'm missing something.'"
Yeah gotcha mate, my bad. I misinterpreted the new rule.
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| Quote: Cokey "Yeah gotcha mate, my bad. I misinterpreted the new rule.
I'm glad it's you! I was wracking my brain trying to work out if I'd somehow got the maths wrong!
The one thing I'm not sure about is why it's thought it would encourage attacking play. I think the theory is that teams will bust a gut to get to fifty metres out so they can hoof a hail mary, but in reality they will still go for the high ball and the chase, because they'll just concede seven-tackle restarts too often. I think JD is right, it will only be used in the last minute of halves.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I'm glad it's you! I was wracking my brain trying to work out if I'd somehow got the maths wrong!
Agreed mate.
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| Quote: Cokey "Agreed mate.'"
And a kicker good enough to nail a 45 metre drop goal is more likely to try for the 40-20 if in their own half.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "And a kicker good enough to nail a 45 metre drop goal is more likely to try for the 40-20 if in their own half.'"
Correct mate, so it's a futile idea in the first place really.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "And a kicker good enough to nail a 45 metre drop goal is more likely to try for the 40-20 if in their own half.'"
Have we all forgotten the 50 yard drop goal by Jacob Miller that won us the game against Catalans in the dying moments against Catalans.at magic weekend. That came immediately from a penalty kick hitting the trinity post and us running the ball up to half way line
.How the hell can we forget that. Some people think this year’s grand final was great because of that dg attempt, but Miller’s was from the halfway, even better.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Have we all forgotten the 50 yard drop goal by Jacob Miller that won us the game against Catalans in the dying moments against Catalans.at magic weekend. That came immediately from a penalty kick hitting the trinity post and us running the ball up to half way line
.How the hell can we forget that. Some people think this year’s grand final was great because of that dg attempt, but Miller’s was from the halfway, even better.'"
Remember two others both from the way line Joe Lyndon against Halifax in the cup and Pat Richards from a ridiculous angle from the wing on the half way
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Have we all forgotten the 50 yard drop goal by Jacob Miller that won us the game against Catalans in the dying moments against Catalans.at magic weekend. That came immediately from a penalty kick hitting the trinity post and us running the ball up to half way line
.How the hell can we forget that. Some people think this year’s grand final was great because of that dg attempt, but Miller’s was from the halfway, even better.'"
"Not from there surely"
"He's had a go"
"HE'S HAD A GO!"
***crowd roars***
"Jacob Miller! "
"That was a drop goal from the half way line and beyond!"
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| Quote: snowie "Remember two others both from the way line Joe Lyndon against Halifax in the cup and Pat Richards from a ridiculous angle from the wing on the half way'"
I think Richards thought he'd win the derby with that belter, but if my memory is correct, Joe Greenwood scored a try straight after.
Was a hell of a drop goal though, as was Miller's.
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| Quote: PopTart ""Not from there surely"
"He's had a go"
"HE'S HAD A GO!"
***crowd roars***
"Jacob Miller! "
"That was a drop goal from the half way line and beyond!"'"
You still remember then.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "You still remember then.
One of my favourite memories of watching Wakefield.
Can't go back as far as you DS but I go back to mid 70s and this is right up there.
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