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Quote: The Dreadnought "If our front rowers (Poore, Amor, Raleigh & Wilkes) stay fit then I believe we have a very decent sized pack. I agree it does need still a little more depth. Singleton if he stays will also be a good prop, he seemed good yesterday. Nice footwork and strong runs.'"


Depth issue applies to most teams with finite resources. You have to balance between quality you can afford and the need to cover for attrition. Another Prop/SR would be nice but he needs to be of decent quality at a decent price, not easy.

This is where you look to your youth set up and as we know that is in disarray at most clubs at the moment.

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Quote: vastman "Depth issue applies to most teams with finite resources. You have to balance between quality you can afford and the need to cover for attrition. Another Prop/SR would be nice but he needs to be of decent quality at a decent price, not easy.

This is where you look to your youth set up and as we know that is in disarray at most clubs at the moment.'"

Yes I agree, I have faith in the few youngsters who remain at the club. They can cover positions on a short term basis and who knows maybe they can make a breakthrough

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Another prop, preferably who can also cover second row, would be ideal as the jury is still very much out on Singleton as a week in week out superleagfue player at this time and he could be back at Leeds by march. Sadly its unlikely that funds will allow so we may have to make do with a few square pegs in round holes at times.

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Think our depth is fine, especially as Trout is our 5th or 6th choice prop but has looked good in pre season thus far. Aiton is a hooker and will stay there all season so again i don't seem the issue. Infact he's the only experienced hooker fit at the moment.

In terms of size, lets also remember the forgotten man 'Vince Mellars', he may well play a few games in the second row seeing as we're more than covered in the backs. Not sure how well he'll go, but if he can use his weight and size he could be a real handful in conjunction with Ali, Kirmond and Mariano

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Quote: Trinity Till Death "Think our depth is fine, especially as Trout is our 5th or 6th choice prop but has looked good in pre season thus far. Aiton is a hooker and will stay there all season so again i don't seem the issue. Infact he's the only experienced hooker fit at the moment.

In terms of size, lets also remember the forgotten man 'Vince Mellars', he may well play a few games in the second row seeing as we're more than covered in the backs. Not sure how well he'll go, but if he can use his weight and size he could be a real handful in conjunction with Ali, Kirmond and Mariano'"


The problem with Mellars is he hasn't shown anything since joining the club worthy of any position, there's many more options I'd prefer before shoehorning Mellars into the squad. The likes of Kirmond and Mariano have upped their game, where Mellars looks to have gone backwards. If he does get a chance he's got to make the most of it, otherwise I'd be trying to offload ASAP if I was Agar.

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Got to agree wlth grezzler about mellars ,i thought when we signed him it would be a good signing what a dissapointment,his performances particulary the one against bradford at bell vue when jeffries kicks frightened him to death were terrible. He may have the size to fill in at second row as someone suggested but his powder puff running and weak tackling i doubt would cause problems to many super league sides

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Quote: Willzay "Last year at Saints the team selection was puzzling as we had 3 hookers in the 17, although we played Mariano at prop with Mellars and Aiton in the second row. However we did not lose by fifty points as you put it, think the scoreline was 38-12? When Poore went off yesterday we didn't lack physicality as I thought Singleton and Wilkes did a good job going forward. Also thought Trout looked comfortable playing at prop and also did good going forward.'"

I stand corrected you are right it was 38 -12 however you can understand my mistake as St Helens did run in 8 tries....

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Quote: Grezzler "The problem with Mellars is he hasn't shown anything since joining the club worthy of any position, there's many more options I'd prefer before shoehorning Mellars into the squad. The likes of Kirmond and Mariano have upped their game, where Mellars looks to have gone backwards. If he does get a chance he's got to make the most of it, otherwise I'd be trying to offload ASAP if I was Agar.'"


Playing for crusaders looked a decent player and scored plenty of tries - but played mainly on the wing. Spent most of last season in centres and obviously injured latter half of season. As a non quota player think he is a decent squad player particulary if we get any injuries in the back line. He does look to have bulked up in off season so lets hope hes fighting for a place

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Quote: laurydaleysstrap "Playing for crusaders looked a decent player and scored plenty of tries - but played mainly on the wing. Spent most of last season in centres and obviously injured latter half of season. As a non quota player think he is a decent squad player particulary if we get any injuries in the back line. He does look to have bulked up in off season so lets hope hes fighting for a place'"


I'm willing to give him another chance, but unless we get plenty of injuries I'm not sure he will get another chance, unless used as a utility player. I'm not clued up on what position he played for Crusaders, if as you say he had most success on the wing he's gonna have to bide his time on that one. Fox and Cockayne don't seem to be injury prone and score plenty of tries, so his desired position my not be achievable.

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Quote: laurydaleysstrap "Playing for crusaders looked a decent player and scored plenty of tries - but played mainly on the wing. Spent most of last season in centres and obviously injured latter half of season. As a non quota player think he is a decent squad player particulary if we get any injuries in the back line. He does look to have bulked up in off season so lets hope hes fighting for a place'"

Sorry to pee on your bonfire but Vince Mellars has played 64 games in Super league, 59 as a centre so the played on the wing gag is an urban myth!

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Quote: JINJER "Sorry to pee on your bonfire but Vince Mellars has played 64 games in Super league, 59 as a centre so the played on the wing gag is an urban myth!'"

Correct and its something i've pointed out before but the myth lives on!

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Quote: Theboyem "Correct and its something i've pointed out before but the myth lives on!'"

Yeah, think you pulled me about it! icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Theboyem "Correct and its something i've pointed out before but the myth lives on!'"


What like the one about Trout not being a Prop despite having played in that position since he was about 12 a046.gif

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Its a bit different to opposing 12 year olds! With Trout i think its a case of he's not ready just yet for playing prop week in week out at first team level, he needs to continue to develop. Now and again as cover yes, but not as a regular yet, that will come in time.

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Quote: JINJER "Sorry to pee on your bonfire but Vince Mellars has played 64 games in Super league, 59 as a centre so the played on the wing gag is an urban myth!'"

Lad looks to have put on a bit of size, could possibly move into the back row, that said we have plenty of lads playing there, perhaps a bench spot as he can cover wing centre and the back row!

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