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| Quote: Theboyem "So effectively everythings been pushed back a couple of months. As long as we get the right result i suppose it makes no difference, the earliest we will be at Newmarket will be the start of the the 2015 season, always was the case. Must admit I getting sick to death of the thing now and just want it sorting once and for all!'"
Yes, sort of! Like I said, the PI date was always a guess, so we just know the date, nothing more suspect than that.
The LDF hasn't gone back for any other reason other than the change in the law on the 15th January.
Of course, the fact that the PI decision is not due until the end of May might have been taken for a reason by the SoS office.... you never know!
I still think the start of the 2014 is likely (and very achievable) for Newmarket but in actual fact you are right, the only thing that matters now is getting a successful decision and another month or so than we anticipated makes no odds really.
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Can't get round the time stamps, so I've merged your thread into Khlav's. I'm sure he won't mind that either.
No, that is fine, as they say, one thread is better than two!
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "
Of course, the fact that the PI decision is not due until the end of May might have been taken for a reason by the SoS office.... you never know!
I still think the start of the 2014 is likely (and very achievable) for Newmarket but in actual fact you are right, the only thing that matters now is getting a successful decision and another month or so than we anticipated makes no odds really.'"
It does seem to be a bit of a coincidence that they both have gone back by the same amount of time.....
I say the start of 2015 as undoubtably Yorkcourt will have to build some of the B8 first for financial reasons, unless something changed in the meantime and a rich benefactor wanted to loan the money so it could be built earlier!
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| Just for a minute, imagine you're explaining this to a five year old.
If the LDF comes out before the PI, does that negate the need for a PI?
If the LDF increases the overall size of the development, does that make it more likely to mean a positive outcome?
Has the SoS purposely given the LDF time to be approved so that he doesnt need to make a decision and it looks like the big society in action?
Keep it simple, and short, if you can!!!
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| Quote: kinleycat "Has the SoS purposely given the LDF time to be approved so that he doesnt need to make a decision and it looks like the big society in action?
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I'd say you're close there however the SoS still has to make a decission but if it is in line with the LDF then it's far easier for him to make it
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| I hope the Newmarket decision announcement is made before the 'backstop' date of 30th May. Can you imagine the nerves etc if the announcement hasn't been made prior to that date
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| Quote: kinleycat "Just for a minute, imagine you're explaining this to a five year old.
If the LDF comes out before the PI, does that negate the need for a PI?
If the LDF increases the overall size of the development, does that make it more likely to mean a positive outcome?
Has the SoS purposely given the LDF time to be approved so that he doesnt need to make a decision and it looks like the big society in action?
Keep it simple, and short, if you can!!!
1. No, the PI is a seperate decision, although it would be helpful if the LDF outcome came out first and was positive.
2. If extra land was taken out of greenbelt then it would be an advantage and make a positive outcome more likely. There is NO guarentee that this is the case though and I personally would be surprised if this happened at this point. You never know though for the reasons IA has stated above.
3. Officially no but, unofficially, yes quite possibly! This looks to me like a move to help smooth the way for a positive decision. The two may be seperate events but the fact that they are intrinsically linked won't have gone unnoticed.
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| A friend of mine who has been involved in these type of things in the past says the 106 agreement is crucial. I seem to recall Pickles asking about that.
Can you confirm the current situation with the 106 agreement IA please? Is this now set in stone and is the stadium going to be built first?
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| If the LDF enquiry is positive, it would seem to be politically nonsensical for the PI to contradict it; furthermore, if WMDC jumps through the appropriate hoops in terms of complying with the requirements of the Localism bill, it would again appear to be counterintuitive for the PI to go against us.
I know that common sense doesn't always apply in politics or planning issues, but one does get the feeling that ducks are being quietly lined up. Roll on May.
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| Quote: "Report submitted to Secretary of State 16 March 2012
Decision issued (Secretary of State cases) 30 May 2012 '"
Over two months for the secretary of state to make a decision?? what do they do these people?? I hope he gets a move on!!
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| Quote: Wakefield No 1 "Over two months for the secretary of state to make a decision?? what do they do these people?? I hope he gets a move on!!'"
Inbox 1 month, quick skeg, outbox 1 month.
Its not suprise the county is on its knees.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "
The only questions that remains, is will the LDF finish before the PI or the PI before the LDF! Who knows!'"
I'm led to believe the LDF report is now expected to be made public in June so will miss the deadline for the Newmarket enquiry. As i've stated before though I have no doubt that information will have been passed between the two prior to publication.
In other news it appears the importance of a positve outcome is crucial as I understand that, subject to ratification, Opus have a buyer lined up for Wheldon Road. Not at the same monetary value as previously hoped but significant nonetheless. Featherstone are also making big noises about continued ground development in order to provide a robust superleague application in 2014.
Interesting times, I would love to see all three clubs prospering at the top level.
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| Quote: sixtogo "I'm led to believe the LDF report is now expected to be made public in June so will miss the deadline for the Newmarket enquiry.'"
"There will be a 6 week consultation period followed by an additional hearing session. No dates have been confirmed yet, but the consultation period is likely to start towards the end of February or early March. Following this stage the Council expects to receive the Inspectors report in the Summer."
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| Quote: bigalf ""There will be a 6 week consultation period followed by an additional hearing session. No dates have been confirmed yet, but the consultation period is likely to start towards the end of February or early March. Following this stage the Council expects to receive the Inspectors report in the Summer."'"
The consultation period is available for any changes made following the latest round of hearings for the LDF. It's all a little frustrating and not what we would have chosen, but we remain confident that the right outcome will occur.
The proposed time for the publishing of the final LDF is June. With the Planning Application PI report due 'on or before 30th May' - clearly there is a lack of co-ordination, but no-one is under any illusions here that one will not take account of the other. It would be ludicrous to have conflicting outcomes, therefore they will both either approve or not approve NM.
As sixtogo mentions, there does seem to be some mechanism being put in place which may allow Cas' to move on with their own development and it may yet work out that we have the opportunity for 2 new grounds - which would be perfect IMO (but I know others won't agree! ).
Keep the faith!
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| Quote: sixtogo "
Interesting times, I would love to see all three clubs prospering at the top level.'"
Seriously doubt that will ever happen, the RFL won't allow it. Long term I firmly believe there will be just one team from the Wakefield district in the top divvision, in what guise that team is remains to be seen.
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