Game now switched to York due to water issue. September 15th game now at Belle Vue

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Not sure how serious the issue is regarding the water supply or lack of it…
Can’t see Matt Ellis being too chuffed with the loss of revenue… Morgan Sindall might find themselves in a bit of bother because of it…
Can’t help thinking that the firm that was looking after trinity’s interests during the build should have picked up on any issues to make sure stuff was being done properly and that corners weren’t cut! ….. which looks like what’s happened..

Toulouse next home game then, 27th April.

having worked on many large construction projects... I can only comment... It cost so much less to do it right first time than it does to correct your feckups ...

Really bad press for a previously well respected project management company!!!

Had a look at Ellis' new showroom on line... Looks like the guy has an eye for quality and detail... Bodes well for the future, but I wouldn't like to be in the contactors shoes right now!

I wouldn’t like to be in the project management company’s shoes either

Has this project actually been managed ? It's seems to be one Horlicks after another. Ellis must be livid spending all his time trying to put thinks right others have messed up. Whilst he is having to do this, he can't get on with the rest of his upgrade plans

Not having much of a clue as to who does what re the build I looked on t'internet and not any wiser.Who pays the Project Manager,us or contractors MS? Thanks.

With the raft of cuts throughout the project and the issues that keep coming it hasn’t really inspired much confidence in the project management and contractors.

What Spook has said is correct but the power supply and water supply/infrastructure I would imagine will have been planned in accordance with what is being built and its requirements. I’m quite surprised that the power issue and this now water issue have occurred.

I am happy with the improvements as a fan but when I look at the fact 12.2 million has gone into this and the raft of cuts and the possible abandonment of the south east stand plans. I would have honestly expected things to go much more smoothly.

With contractors and projects you would generally scrutinise, review and challenge regularly as the end customer. It's a massive task and a lot of work at every stage of the process. To a degree though you have to trust the contractors who are the professionals with the knowledge.

No doubt there will be a lot of conversations taking place.

Quite right… much of my career has been in engineering assurance… working on the ‘client’ side…. The contractor should have evidence of requirements management, design assurance… and the sign offs into testing and commissioning… all of which should have been presented at final inspection and handover!

I’d be absolutely amazed if this stand hasn’t had a firm project managing it..
I also doubt if MC or JM will have had much knowledge on construction, and would of thought they would of had some outfit doing the management side of things..
I seem to recall some talk on here about a firm who were managing it though.
The bottom line is … if you employ a company to build you a stand… you expect them to do it to a good standard…
Questions will undoubtedly be asked about how it was ever signed off, with the electrical and water problems that have now arisen..

Water and electric demand are predetermined and reinforcement of infrastructure and switch gear is processed well in advance of a project. Either someone has got the calcs wrong or there is a fault somewhere.

There's a third option, the builder in order to improve their profit margin to deliver the project on time and within budget has taken shortcuts and cost savings such as installing 63mm mains supply instead of 90mm

I'm neither confirming or denying this is the issue, but if the existing mains was 63mm it would have cost a lot to replace it, also the old mains was delivering most of the water to ground level and 1st story, now it needs to go up considerably higher requiring a greater pressure, 90mm will allow 70% more pressure than 63mm.
My expertise is more of the electrical side of things and I believe that issue was a much simpler and cheaper fix as the capacity of the site is similar to what it was prior to the upgrades, the LED floodlights use around 50% less power than the old discharge ones (and deliver around 30% more lumens), which means that capacity was available for the main stand.