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| I see it's back to Miller bashing on here again! Just like the good old days when he was scapegoat for our shortcomings. He doesn't seem any different to me before he got injured, apart from a bit of sharpness, I thought he did ok, but there you go. If Broughy does play next week, that will be Miller's 3rd game back with a different partner, something to bear in mind maybe. Bar that error late on Jowitt was my mom, and I've got no problem with either him or Hampshire at full back, but what I don't want in the coming weeks is chopping and changing at full back and in the halves, it cost us last year messing about bringing Finn back, then out again.....
One thing I did notice about our forwards generally......how can I put this politely....... a lot of them look overweight to me! I'm not saying they are unfit, but 3 of them look as if they could maybe shed a few pounds to me, whether that would bring better personal performance, is obviously open to conjecture, or maybe it's just the shorts and jerseys that are 'highlighting' their excess......
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| Look at the other teams.Quite a lot of the big guys carry a little extra around the middle . Ben Murdoch Masil a for example.
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| Quote: thebeagle "Look at the other teams.Quite a lot of the big guys carry a little extra around the middle . Ben Murdoch Masil a for example.'"
Absolutely yeah, he does look overweight and he seems to put the same consistent performances in. It might be my eyes, but I just think a few of our guys seem to have put weight on since earlier on in the season, but obviously I don't know that for sure. I think Koppy looks to be carrying a bit too much, and I think the last few games he's looked sluggish and off the pace to me.
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| Quote: Wildmoggy "Absolutely yeah, he does look overweight and he seems to put the same consistent performances in. It might be my eyes, but I just think a few of our guys seem to have put weight on since earlier on in the season, but obviously I don't know that for sure. I think Koppy looks to be carrying a bit too much, and I think the last few games he's looked sluggish and off the pace to me.'"
There are quite a few of them who no longer seem to be the players of the early rounds of the season. I am not saying they have lost a lot of 'edge' probably only 10% but that can be enough between winners and loosers.
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| But for all the negativity we are 6th and only off 5th by one drop goal in points difference.
Silly play by Zeb Taia cost us 5th today.
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| Quote: PopTart "But for all the negativity we are 6th and only off 5th by one drop goal in points difference.
Silly play by Zeb Taia cost us 5th today.'"
6th is mid table is it not. Tell me how many points are we in front of the bottom team and how many points are we behind the top team. These next 4 or 5 games could see us into the top 5, however we could also slide down much nearer to the bottom, if we don't start to pull things around quickly
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| Quote: Prince Buster "6th is mid table is it not. Tell me how many points are we in front of the bottom team and how many points are we behind the top team. These next 4 or 5 games could see us into the top 5, however we could also slide down much nearer to the bottom, if we don't start to pull things around quickly'"
Exactly. We are in a good position right now.
What happens from now on is unknown but with our top players coming back I am feeling more positive than negative.
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| Any team looking to get into the top 5 should not be getting thrashed by London once, never mind twice.
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| Quote: Willzay "Any team looking to get into the top 5 should not be getting thrashed by London once, never mind twice.'"
I agree. And we have one more game against them too.
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| Quote: Wildmoggy "I see it's back to Miller bashing on here again! Just like the good old days when he was scapegoat for our shortcomings. He doesn't seem any different to me before he got injured, apart from a bit of sharpness, I thought he did ok, but there you go. If Broughy does play next week, that will be Miller's 3rd game back with a different partner, something to bear in mind maybe. Bar that error late on Jowitt was my mom, and I've got no problem with either him or Hampshire at full back, but what I don't want in the coming weeks is chopping and changing at full back and in the halves, it cost us last year messing about bringing Finn back, then out again.....
One thing I did notice about our forwards generally......how can I put this politely.......
all of them are overweight including your self claimed forward leader.
miller run meters would be in the minus he runs across field so much.
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| Quote: BOJ042 "all of them are overweight including your self claimed forward leader.
miller run meters would be in the minus he runs across field so much.'"
Yes they are ALL clearly overweight aren't they, I mean just look at England, Batch, Ashurst, so fat they can barely run.....you do spout some crap don't you. Well seen as you're disgruntled most of the time with the way we have played etc, I can tell you matey without our 'pack leader' we would probably be in the bottom 4 now, because he almost singlehandedly won us games against Wigan, Hudds probably twice, and at least one more. But that just goes to show how ignorant you are about the game in general.......
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| Quote: BOJ042 "all of them are overweight including your self claimed forward leader.
miller run meters would be in the minus he runs across field so much.'"
Good to know you're still out to lunch.
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| Our forwards are probably what concern me the most but on paper they are a decent set. We've been battered down the middle twice by London. We can't seem to get the upper hand in the ruck ina lot of games. Also concerning for me is out line speed. We are beaten on line speed in every game pretty much. Even Widnes had better line speed than us for the majority of that game. We seem to just wait and hang back in defence. I think all over the pitch we need to be a bit more aggressive. We should be okay when we get all players back - especially Bill but recent performances have been concerning. Can't comment on Catalan as the first game I have missed this season but sounds like the first half was not much different to games like Widnes.
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| Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Our forwards are probably what concern me the most but on paper they are a decent set. We've been battered down the middle twice by London. We can't seem to get the upper hand in the ruck ina lot of games. Also concerning for me is out line speed. We are beaten on line speed in every game pretty much. Even Widnes had better line speed than us for the majority of that game. We seem to just wait and hang back in defence. I think all over the pitch we need to be a bit more aggressive. We should be okay when we get all players back - especially Bill but recent performances have been concerning. Can't comment on Catalan as the first game I have missed this season but sounds like the first half was not much different to games like Widnes.'"
Agree on line speed and that is one thing that really frustrates me and has done for years, we just don`t seem to move up and pressure teams. Kickers must love playing against us as they seem to have all the time in the world to kick the ball where as every other team gets up in there face which makes a real difference.
In all honesty, I actually think we struggle with go forward outside of Kops and Fifita in the pack who both constantly win the collision.
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| Quote: homme vaste "Agree on line speed and that is one thing that really frustrates me and has done for years, we just don`t seem to move up and pressure teams. Kickers must love playing against us as they seem to have all the time in the world to kick the ball where as every other team gets up in there face which makes a real difference.
In all honesty, I actually think we struggle with go forward outside of Kops and Fifita in the pack who both constantly win the collision.'"
King consistently wins the collusion and makes good yards but doesn’t get enough game time for me.
I’ll keep saying it, we have not played a full 80 mins this season, usually the first 20. You simply can’t meep winning games in ten minute spurts.
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