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| How can we make the people of Wakefield come down to watch this city's high flying super league team. Waky have exceeded all expectations and continue to produce some great entertainment but it seems that crowds continue to dwindle. Big games at a critical part of the season watched by pathetic crowds, cant be all Sky's fault can it?
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| Marketing drives within the city, promoting the clubs and its recent upturn in fortunes, especially to areas where new housing has sprung up.
Maybe also offering incentives to attract them.
Ultimately, I think real positive news and action regarding the stadium would help the cause.
No its not all Skys fault but Thursday and Friday nights are tough. Not all fans drive, and some work until 5.30.
I think most of our away trips on these nights depart the ground prior. Sure fans of other clubs have the same issues.
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| The lads deserve more support but the Trin support is getting bigger. Thursday night matches have knocked the average attendance + lack of away fans only Hull and cas have brought a decent following this season. The state of Belle Vue and lack of progress on community stadium has an effect but I can see our support getting better and for a club that's won nothing in 60 years playing in embarrassing facilities our loyal hardcore support is there to build on.
Keep on as we are coupled with positive stadium news and I'd be hoping for above 6k average next season,we have the potential support out there. Get to the GF this season and we'll have over 20k claiming to be loyal fans.
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| Marketing could be improved, but the ground is the main issue with crowds IMHO. Like it or lump it - not everyone wants to pay 20 odd quid to watch a game of Rugby on a building site. A few friends of mine we're talking about getting more into Rugby League recently and were discussing which local team they would pick to follow out of Wakey, Leeds and Cas (Wakey being the most local). Wakey were discounted simply because of the state of the ground.
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "
Keep on as we are coupled with positive stadium news and I'd be hoping for above 6k average next season,we have the potential support out there. Get to the GF this season and we'll have over 20k claiming to be loyal fans.
Up the Trin'"
I love an optimist! - but being a Trinity fan you have to be I suppose. I'm a little more pessimistic these days I'm afraid.
I'm sure a new stadium with better facilities would attract more, especially with the team playing as well as they are, but with absolutely no sign of anything happening stadium-wise, it will be status quo regarding attendances!
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| I, and others, on this forum have said many times before that the public of Wakefield are apathetic towards all spectator sports, not just rugby league. I agree that the ground issue is a big factor. Wakefield RU, Wakefield AFC and Wakefield CC all had reasonable ground accommodation but disappeared within a short time of each other, and Wakefiekd Trinity would have gone the same way if not for the shear doggedness (and money) of Michael Carter and Chris Brereton. We just can't get the Wakefield citizens off their s. Castleford could give us a good lesson on this subject.
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| [list[/list Quote: Redscat "I, and others, on this forum have said many times before that the public of Wakefield are apathetic towards all spectator sports, not just rugby league. I agree that the ground issue is a big factor. Wakefield RU, Wakefield AFC and Wakefield CC all had reasonable ground accommodation but disappeared within a short time of each other, and Wakefiekd Trinity would have gone the same way if not for the shear doggedness (and money) of Michael Carter and Chris Brereton. We just can't get the Wakefield citizens off their s. Castleford could give us a good lesson on this subject.'"
I don't think the Wakefield public are apathetic they've just had to put up with 60 years of disappointment on and off the pitch. If the same happened to St Helens or Warrington or any other club they'd be the same. I can see a change happening and people are looking at our club in a more positive light good example is s few work colleagues who've not been for a few years are coming for the Wigan game as they've been impressed with what they've seen on TV this season and new stadium would change our image instantly. Plus I don't know the merchandise sales but we must have sold more than ever this season.
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| Quote: Jizzer "Marketing could be improved, but the ground is the main issue with crowds IMHO. Like it or lump it - not everyone wants to pay 20 odd quid to watch a game of Rugby on a building site. A few friends of mine we're talking about getting more into Rugby League recently and were discussing which local team they would pick to follow out of Wakey, Leeds and Cas (Wakey being the most local). Wakey were discounted simply because of the state of the ground.'"
Grounds a massive hindrance everyone knows it, I don't take the kids because of the state of it but hopefully we will get it sorted and then we can really push on.
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "Grounds a massive hindrance everyone knows it, I don't take the kids because of the state of it but hopefully we will get it sorted and then we can really push on.
Up the Trin'"
I agree the ground is an issue but not to take your kids I find a bit strange, I've took all 3 of mine from an early age and now both my grandkids and never once thought anything else,but every one has a choice.
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| I'm not that sure that the state of the ground is as big an issue as a lot make out. We've had ground improvements over the last couple of seasons ie the north and west stands, but the crowds are less than the 7 or 8000 we were achieving during the Glover era. A lot of supporters that I speak to say that they would love to stay at Belle Vue. Also, how do you account for the demise of the other sporting clubs that I mentioned
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| Ultimately moving to a new ground would be ideal given it's in the right location but my point of view both my daughters stopped getting season tickets due to lack of student discount something they get at most other grounds so pick and choose there games as do all there mates ,the vast majority of armchair fans really don't know what there missing this season so there's the problem for so many years we were gash , as for Bellevue most people listen to what's broadcast constantly told its a tip strangely I've stood at most grounds and bizarrely I see the grass and field it's what s on it that will bring people back in we need a successful team with a final
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| Quote: Redscat "I'm not that sure that the state of the ground is as big an issue as a lot make out. We've had ground improvements over the last couple of seasons ie the north and west stands, but the crowds are less than the 7 or 8000 we were achieving during the Glover era. A lot of supporters that I speak to say that they would love to stay at Belle Vue. Also, how do you account for the demise of the other sporting clubs that I mentioned'"
Wakey RU, name a Rugby Union club in this area that does well in the 80s they had a decent team and were probably the biggest club in Yorkshire, didn't Bradford Bulls contribute to their demise. Wakefield FC what do you expect? It would take years to establish a new football club, it'd love a professional Wakefield football club as it would make the stadium issues a lot easier.
If The club continues its progress on and off the pitch and stadium gets sorted we continue to add to our support and the club will get stronger.
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| Yes there were higher crowds in the Glover/Elston era, but the cost of a season ticket was much lower. So in effect we had a near on full ground, but unfortunately empty tills.
Maybe the costs of them do need looking at a bit, as they are higher than those of other clubs, but I would say snipping them rather than slashing the costs.
Its incentives thats needed to entice more fans to come in.
Mini packages, memberships that include other bonuses, getting out into the city more to promote the club. I even heard the other day about a super league club, that all season ticket holders receive a thank you from the club for their continued support. Sometimes that personal touch can go a long way in gaining new and retaining old business. Before the comments start, it wasn't Hull KR
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| Lets face it, unless you buy the Wakefield Express or have Sky sports then Wakefield Trinity do not exist in the lives / minds of the general public. Try it, do without those two sources of information and you will never hear the name of the club,let alone the sport of rugby league. Some of us are lucky enough to move in circles where the game is talked about but without mates and family who indulge themselves in our passion then how do the rest get to hear about the game? let alone our position in the league. I have always been a follower but in the late 70s I had other things to do and even for me, league dropped completely of my radar, and that included a time when Trinity went to Wembley. Glover had the right idea but as someone said, not enough money coming in.
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| I do sense the tide is turning slightly over the last couple of seasons with our continued success with people in general actually talking about the club again. There seems to be a little buzz in the pub, in the supermarket, around the town. I see more Trinity shirts than I did 5 years ago, there doesn't seem to be the numbers of Bulls or Rhinos shirts there used to be. Fans seem to be proud to wear their shirts, to stop and have a chat about the team. It doesn't seem much I know and whether it will increase numbers time will tell but I've certainly had a feelgood factor about the club since MC took over. We're heading in the right direction and as other posters have said, if we could only get some positive stadium news that would really give us a huge boost.
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