Couple of players have caught my eye who have been released 2 inparticular. Kyle Bibb looks a uncertain prospect at best and hopefully Scully is going but nothing has actually been mentioned on the Scully front. Thackray is 1 player I know he isn't the sharpest knife in the draw but i'd say he has been the pick of Hulls forwards this year and he runs hard. Boyle from Cas ive rated this kid I think this lad will develop into a good forward I know Barry Mac rates him high maybe Kear could make him into something as we know Matterson is in capable of doing so. Sureley both will do a job and they maybe a step up from Bibey not faulting Bibey because he did well this season .What do you think surely 1 is worth a punt? No insults please !

Scully was out of contract so I think it's fair to say he's gone.

I'd take Boyle or Thackray on the right terms but I don't think we need another two props and I think both would potentially be looking at a decent wage.

I'd also look to let Bibb go if we can get someone to take him off our hands. Simply not SL quality IMHO, a couple of seasons in the NFP may help him develop and who knows.

I wouldn't disagree that they are both worth having but I think we have covered the impact prop role with Korki and Boyle looks like he wants more than a young prop learning role.

I'd go for the lower division 'potential' guys, who want the chance but would be happy with fighting for the odd game role. We don't hav ethe money to have a decent player sitting beind Morrison and Fergy but we do need support in those roles. Hendo covers the worker role but I'd like to see a strong running "rough diamond". Can't say I know who that is but home we are looking. Wilkes was a good example of this.

paul johnstone will do an exellent job in sr.and will be great cover in the backs.

I wonder why we have not had this confirmed YET if this is true ???

I heard it was verbally agreed as Johnson's contract doesnt expire till November??

what about taking a punt at some local ameatur lads? at stanley for example you ve got class acts such as kev king, rhodesy, that brett lad im sure they coulddo a job at super league level

don't think it matters mate aslong as he's in his last year, ie due to run out

Kev King, sadly, couldn't cut it last time, why would he no?. Lets be honest, there's usually a reason why players play amateur level and not a pro - be it an attidute problem, couldn't be bothered with the training, dedication and fitness required to play for money, and most crucially of all, not good enough.

If they're not goo enough to be picked up by Championship (1) clubs, why would that 'do a job at Super League' level?

Big step from ams to pros. Have to choose carefully.
And to be honest, we have young lads coming through that can 'do a job'. We need someone who will be ok on the side lines for long stretches but can step up and not take anything away from the team.

I haven't got the magic formula though, and I'm sure JK and crew are working hard on the same subject we are discussing.

The gap between SL and NL1 is huge (see almost all Challenge Cup matches between the divisions). The gap between the NL's and the best amatures is not that huge in my opinion, the lads who like a bet will tell you the number of times a NL side has been missing lots of players and had to dip into the local amature side for numbers - the lads think they are on a good thing on the handicap yet the side full of amatures performs much better than expected. The lads who gamble (particularly on the lower divisions) will confirm I reckon that the difference made by these players is nowhere near as big as it used to be a few years back.

Pretty wild statement suggesting to look at the Yorkshire League for us, have a look at the lads from Barrow and Whitehaven first, they seem to have a couple of decent rough tough forwards - even then its a massive ask to take the step up, I think we have been spoiled over the last couple of years with Blaymire/Golden/Bibey etc.

Spicer, King, Applecart all suggested for returns...... We need to get real.

If these players are that good, why are they playing at that level?