And plenty of it on show too at Featherstone today. If only we had these key elements on show at Belle Vue more often.

Plus they know how to defend

Get Liam Finn snapped up - he can kick!

We had the services of Liam Finn Years ago but just as with Gareth Moore, we decided that he wasn't good enough.

was a good old fashioned cup game quite enjoyed from an out side view

shame the rest of the championship clubs aren't as close

We could do with a bottle or two.

even widnes showed how to do it.how does all the top teams get away with forward passes, saints got away with a few

Thought this was a thread about JD for a minute, boy do we miss that kind of player.

Seems to be that we have a team of journey men and overseas players who are just playing for the wages rather than anything else like making the city proud etc. We have a big lack of home grown players or players that wear their Hearts on their sleeves I.e jd etc.

Would make Danny Kirmond captain, he showed that spirit & passion on Friday

And it seems we were right in both cases, otherwise they'd both have secured a SL berth elsewhere and be pulling up trees.

Ok for a championship side, no where near super league standard.

You can't say that though can you with young players, give them the right coaching in the right set up and things can change, and even if they don't lets face it we can bing in Tim Smith to pull up all the trees for them.

I think you're all missing the point on this one.

Our CCup exploits have been abysmal for as long as I can remember. It's certainly not new to Agar and this team - far from it. And yes even JD was as crap as anyone else when it came to CCup games.

Unless I am mistaken we have never beaten a fellow SL team in all the time we have been in SL! That is a hugely damning statistic. We couldn't beat Hull in the Semis, we lost to Cas last year - even in 2004 we were knocked out early by a SL team I think.

We have had six coaches in that time and only Kear came close when goal kicking let us down but even then that was the first SL opposition we met and we were hardly fantastic on the day. Ditto the play offs the other year, only in 2004 did we ever really make a fight of it in a knock out competition - that is once since 1979!!!

I know the issues and the excuses and they are still with us, but all the same it's a disgrace - both previous BOD, players and coaches should hang their heads in shame.

Contrast this to some of the epic displays in the end of season relegation games. Yet as was said about Dunkirk, these were not victories just total defeats avoided. I always thought the celebrations after avoiding relegation especially in 2006 were a travesty. That team in particular should never have been there in the first place and had let the club and fans down - an apology would have been more appropriate - and with no fear of upsetting the JD fan club of which I am one he was as big a culprit as the rest up until the last 6 games - there have been no heroes in this story.

Until we have a winning mentality or at least enough players who have been at the club long enough to have a sense of pride we will never do a Fev - not in a million seasons.

To quote our resident mouth, Stu Dickens is a midget prop true - but with the heart of a giant and a love of his club - who is our Stuart Dickens?

It will take Glover and Agar/whoever some time to rectify this - when/if Johnson, Amor and Woods are at the heart of our team in 3 years time then maybe - however if past experience is anything to go by none of those names will be on the team sheet and nothing will change.

Well done Fev by the way.

Johnson nailed to go to hull.
Can't see Leeds not taking Amor.