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| I still think Kear is the right man for us and would love him to lead us out into our new stadium. But how long shall we give it until we have a shake up ? 3-4 games? Maybe a new coach in for Beans? What do you think? When staff are there 2 long they can get complacent i am in favour of a shake up but sill stick with Kear. Some fresh blood on coaching staff.
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| ok ! I will have a word with Jonny T and come help out !!
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| Having seen the work that Beans Drury Col and et al do that is the most ridiculous comment you have made.
Ever.
You have no idea the importance of Beans, the relationship within the club etc etc
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| John Kear all the way for me. Don't have any knowledge of how the coaching staff work but if they're good enough for John Kear they are good enough for me.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "i am in favour of a shake up but sill stick with Kear. '"
That's some shake-up.
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| Dumb topic; stopped reading after 3-4 games.
Who else would take us? Who would you want? There's nobody comes close to Kear.
More importantly who can turn no hopers into SL playoff players? John "Yes I can" Kear.
Is this situation much different from 2007? Small, inexpensive squad of rejects and no hopers. And where did we finish?? 8th.
John will be here when we move, he's a director & for me what he's done for WT would entitle him to a place for life. However I honestly believe he will be the one to lead us out into NM, as Head Coach.
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Dumb topic; stopped reading after 3-4 games.
Who else would take us? Who would you want? There's nobody comes close to Kear.
More importantly who can turn no hopers into SL playoff players? John "Yes I can" Kear.
Is this situation much different from 2007? Small, inexpensive squad of rejects and no hopers. And where did we finish?? 8th.
John will be here when we move, he's a director & for me what he's done for WT would entitle him to a place for life. However I honestly believe he will be the one to lead us out into NM, as Head Coach.'"
i agree with a lot however, let us see if he signs a new contract, he would have gone to France if allowed, he is not as loya as you think, remember people it is a job!!!
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| Glad to see the clear out and see what he can do with players who want to play for wakey,
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| I think Kears future depends on the franchise situation. If we are given one then i think he will stay but if we are not and Cas are then i think he will go to Cas.
Personally i hope he stays because i think he has done more for this club than any other coach and because of this he can be forgiven a bad half to one season where we lost arguably 3 of our most important players.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "I still think Kear is the right man for us and would love him to lead us out into our new stadium. But how long shall we give it until we have a shake up ? 3-4 games? Maybe a new coach in for Beans? What do you think? When staff are there 2 long they can get complacent i am in favour of a shake up but sill stick with Kear. Some fresh blood on coaching staff.'"
i think he will last the season relivent to results but that wouldnt be my choice,if we where to say win only 2 of the first 12 games(looking at our squad we will be lucky to do that)we would have won 5 out of 30 games which to me isnt good enough we cant keep him just cos he done well in the past--he is doing same as other clubs hes been at good at start crap towards end,we also cant keep him because there aint no one else cos there is.as for other members well i never see beans speaking to players when in the gym and has for colin s he is a waste of space we where probally the unfittest team in all of sl since he been here not to mention the injuries.
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| Quote: trinity for life "i think he will last the season relivent to results but that wouldnt be my choice,if we where to say win only 2 of the first 12 games(looking at our squad we will be lucky to do that)we would have won 5 out of 30 games which to me isnt good enough we cant keep him just cos he done well in the past--he is doing same as other clubs hes been at good at start crap towards end,we also cant keep him because there aint no one else cos there is.as for other members well i never see beans speaking to players when in the gym and has for colin s he is a waste of space we where probally the unfittest team in all of sl since he been here not to mention the injuries.'"
Agreed re Colin Sanctuary. I have often thought that as his background is in other sports, he is not devising the most appropriate programmes for RL players. The ability to last 80 minutes is still a major problem.
We need to find another Geoff Evans type conditioner. We used to steam roll teams in the last 20 when he was here and its no coincidence that we had one of our best seasons with him at the club (although we did have some quality players at the time as well)
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Agreed re Colin Sanctuary. I have often thought that as his background is in other sports, he is not devising the most appropriate programmes for RL players. The ability to last 80 minutes is still a major problem.
We need to find another Geoff Evans type conditioner. We used to steam roll teams in the last 20 when he was here and its no coincidence that we had one of our best seasons with him at the club (although we did have some quality players at the time as well)'"
Conversely Trinity also had their best season (in the League) under Sanctuary's tenure. I believe Evans was at Bradford during the 2010 season and they were only marginly less appalling than Wakefield.
I would imagine the poor performance of the players would have a knock on effect with respect to fitness. It stands to season if the team spent most of the match defending they are going to tire quicker than the opposition.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Conversely Trinity also had their best season (in the League) under Sanctuary's tenure. I believe Evans was at Bradford during the 2010 season and they were only marginly less appalling than Wakefield.
I would imagine the poor performance of the players would have a knock on effect with respect to fitness. It stands to season if the team spent most of the match defending they are going to tire quicker than the opposition.'"
I think our best season was more to do with the players wanting to honour the memory of 2 former team mates who had passed in tragic circumstances, then anything Colin Sanctuary was doing.
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "I think our best season was more to do with the players wanting to honour the memory of 2 former team mates who had passed in tragic circumstances, then anything Colin Sanctuary was doing.'"
Whilst I don't doubt that had a baring on the determination to do well, if your knackered your knackered, and whilst you won't give up the chase mentally, with nothing left in the tank physically you won't be able to acheive it.
In addition, the players probably spent less time defending in 2009.
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Dumb topic; stopped reading after 3-4 games.
Who else would take us? Who would you want? There's nobody comes close to Kear.
More importantly who can turn no hopers into SL playoff players? John "Yes I can" Kear.
Is this situation much different from 2007? Small, inexpensive squad of rejects and no hopers. And where did we finish?? 8th.
John will be here when we move, he's a director & for me what he's done for WT would entitle him to a place for life. However I honestly believe he will be the one to lead us out into NM, as Head Coach.'"
I think you have a reading problem i want kear to stay but after our abysmal end to the season get a 1st team coach in for beans because the end of last season it was shambolic so read the question properly and answer how long should we give it you clowns !!!!
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