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| Although i don't want this removed i think it should be an automatic red if the tackler gets it wrong and leads with head. KR player may have not meant to do this but think the RFL should put in a rule saying shoulder charge ok but its up to the tackler to get his positioning correct and if not and results is the same as tonights outcome then should be a dismissal.
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| sometimes the tackler can't help as the player lowers down if you get me.
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| The Hull Kr player lead with head though and Amor was upright and isn't the smallest of players. I know what you mean though but think they need to tag some sort of disclaimer to these type of tackles to make sure the defender gets is technique correct. If it had been an outside back receiving one of those the outcome would have been a lot more serious.
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| Couldent see it from Northstand too far away and the screen was blocked by the roof! Ill watch it later - have it on record. Referees will give a red for a bad shoulder charge one game and then not on the others, not consistant enough.
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| Wasnt a shoulder charge his arms went around amor
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| From the east stand, it looked like the KR tackler's head made cntact with Amor's chin at pace, which subsequently knocked him out. I saw it as nothing worse than a clash of heads, even though the KR mans arm was 'swinging'. We got the penalty, I can only assume for the intent of the swinging arm.
Can anyone offer another, possibly more accurate, account?
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| He went to wrap his arms round Amor, though his central ball carry and the 'full front' collision bounced mika off and they clashed.Don't think you can be done for a swinging arm around the body. Ref also warned it was because of contact with the head.
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| Accidental clash, no malice there IMHO.
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| Quote: wakeyrule "Accidental clash, no malice there IMHO.'"
I agree.
I'm not a fan of the shoulder charge though, I think players should learn how to grab legs and smother the ball instead.
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| Quote: Seth "He went to wrap his arms round Amor, though his central ball carry and the 'full front' collision bounced mika off and they clashed.Don't think you can be done for a swinging arm around the body. Ref also warned it was because of contact with the head.'"
That was the conclusion I came to...as there was contact with the head, accidental or not, it was a penalty to us.
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| Just watched it back and yes it was accidental, Hull KR players went in for the collision, put his head down, went to make the tackle and hit Amor straight on the chin end with the top of his head.
From the look of it Amor's lucky he didn't break his jaw, it was a huge impact. Had to be a penalty because he made contact with Amor's head, although I don't know what Dobson was arguing with the ref about, he was at it a few times tonight.
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| I think he could face censure - he lead with his head and as the onus is on the defender to affect the tackle safely, the panel might take a different view to the one expressed on here.
In a weekend when a football player needed gas and air for a stud to the shin, to see Amor trying to run up and down the sideline a few minutes after being out cold in mid-air, reminds us just how tough these lads are.
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| Quote: bren2k "I think he could face censure - he lead with his head and as the onus is on the defender to affect the tackle safely, the panel might take a different view to the one expressed on here.'"
I'm with you and also to me it looked like he lifted his head in to Amors chin, very lucky IMO and at the time I was convinced he'd broken his chin
On the subject of being tough in RL, a certain Wigan full backs recent quote rings so true "RL players spend 80 mins pretending they aren't hurt"
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| Quote: financialtimes "On the subject of being tough in RL, a certain Wigan full backs recent quote rings so true "RL players spend 80 mins pretending they aren't hurt"'"
It sure is tough, look at the state of Lincoln Withers head!
rlhttps://twitter.com/linc07o/status/300393337922412544/photo/1rl
Ouch
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| Quote: TanTastic "It sure is tough, look at the state of Lincoln Withers head!
rlhttps://twitter.com/linc07o/status/300393337922412544/photo/1rl
Ouch'"
Ouch indeed! He was very unfortunate, nothing anybody could do about it!
Rugby is a tough sport!!
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