In the sad event that Salford have to start selling to keep trading, sounds like the clubs will have a vote to decide whether Salford players will be exempt from salary cap and quota restrictions. Suspect we would vote against hull and hull kr for What do we think ?

I should think those that want a player will vote for, those that don't will vote against. But it's more about player welfare. If they don't do it they are forcing an employer to terminate a contract but restricting where that employee can gain new employment.

Clubs have voted against dispensations for both cap and quota for Salford players, which probably goes in our favour if we are interested in any players. Interestingly, Salford voted for it themselves, which I guess indicates they are willing to let plenty go. Clubs that are thought to have cap space along with ourselves are Cas, Hudds, Hull FC and Wire, the rest are at cap.

Confirmation here... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/s ... r-BB1rrmAR

Confirmation here... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/s ... r-BB1rrmAR

It says in that article [quote:68dc3g1q]As it stands, only three clubs – Huddersfield, Leigh and Wakefield – have spots on their overseas quota moving into the 2025 season.[/quote:68dc3g1q] I didn't think we had any quota spaces left, I think they've got that wrong. We've got Cap space left.

[quote="Shifty Cat":379x39br]It says in that article I didn't think we had any quota spaces left, I think they've got that wrong. We've got Cap space left.[/quote:379x39br] Bain has gone home.

[quote="inside man":vmex1lic]Bain has gone home.[/quote:vmex1lic] Didn't know that, only talking about him a couple of days ago. missed the next thread that is a few pages long telling me the score, that's what you get for not being on here every hour and just clicking on the first link at the top. Interesting then, it says it was by mutual consent but I wonder if we paid him off to free up a quota space because of the dearth of out-and-out Props.

See the caveat the RFL have put in is they are open to other proposals …….

Did I read correctly that Salford were banking on a grant from their council, and used that money to book a warm weather training camp in Portugal? Are they insane?

[quote="charlie":5no6p3cz]Did I read correctly that Salford were banking on a grant from their council, and used that money to book a warm weather training camp in Portugal? Are they insane?[/quote:5no6p3cz] I think the answer to that is yes and yes

[quote="charlie":2lo4fhqe]Did I read correctly that Salford were banking on a grant from their council, and used that money to book a warm weather training camp in Portugal? Are they insane?[/quote:2lo4fhqe] Partially correct The grant was £500K and was supposed to be to support community links using RL and the stadium, they spent that money on a number of things not just the Portugal trip

I remember when we were in that situation, we had to sell players, let back room staff go and we cancelled warm weather camps in favour of army camps in Wales and North Yorkshire. Salford seem to be in some form of denial

[quote="The Avenger":2i5sdt02]I remember when we were in that situation, we had to sell players, let back room staff go and we cancelled warm weather camps in favour of army camps in Wales and North Yorkshire. Salford seem to be in some form of denial[/quote:2i5sdt02] Looks that way, just seems a reckless, irresponsible way to run a club, but they seem to have got away with it - seems the bubble has burst now.

[quote="1315trinity":zo21h8yb]Looks that way, just seems a reckless, irresponsible way to run a club, but they seem to have got away with it - seems the bubble has burst now.[/quote:zo21h8yb] I guess with the council paying out for the stadium means that fall back isn't an option anymore.

[quote="Khlav Kalash":34kugtki]I guess with the council paying out for the stadium means that fall back isn't an option anymore.[/quote:34kugtki] Think they've been on borrowed time for a while

[quote="1315trinity":1vvncf6n]Think they've been on borrowed time for a while[/quote:1vvncf6n] I know, and I've said as much in the past. It was clear as day this reckoning would come around at some point. It just happens that this year the bail outs have run dry.

[quote="Khlav Kalash":vq0nhlcd]I know, and I've said as much in the past. It was clear as day this reckoning would come around at some point. It just happens that this year the bail outs have run dry.[/quote:vq0nhlcd] Should have kept London in and put Salford into the championship, I bet the RFL new this was happenning so it was announced at the start of the season so Salford kept their place.

I don't agree. There are rules for eligibility and Salford were better than London, by a long way. If Salford drop out it still shouldn't be London.

Definitely. I don’t know precisely how badly it’ll affect Salford’s score for 2026 - you’d assume it’ll affect their finance element, and likely their attendances will drop a bit. If they lose Sneyd, Macdonald, Lafai, Cross, Ormondroyd, Hill et al it would be incredible if they maintain their performance score. So if Toulouse can improve their score a bit it’s not hard to see them replacing Salford. Only other scenario is York have a dream year and Toulouse drop off.

[quote="Big lads mate":evycnemd]Should have kept London in and put Salford into the championship, I bet the RFL new this was happenning so it was announced at the start of the season so Salford kept their place.[/quote:evycnemd] To be fair London are hardly a shining example of a well run club. Hughes financially backed them but did little else and in fact has left a much worse club than when he took over through his negligence.

[quote="PopTart":2ngod1xd]I don't agree. There are rules for eligibility and Salford were better than London, by a long way. If Salford drop out it still shouldn't be London.[/quote:2ngod1xd] Yes they were, but why? Hence the position they are in, that’s why Wakefield ended where we’ve been in the past, easy to overspend. Come back to bite you in the end.

[quote="PopTart":22j015cr]I don't agree. There are rules for eligibility and Salford were better than London, by a long way. If Salford drop out it still shouldn't be London.[/quote:22j015cr] Yeah London lost their backer I think but the RFL can't have looked too closely at salford's finances. I like Salford and admire their coach and onfield performances but it was all done on the back of money That wasn't there- how come that wasn't picked up on?

[quote="1315trinity":2qausvk1]Yeah London lost their backer I think but the RFL can't have looked too closely at salford's finances. I like Salford and admire their coach and onfield performances but it was all done on the back of money That wasn't there- how come that wasn't picked up on?[/quote:2qausvk1] You can’t penalise a team in advance and just guess though can you? The score for Salford on finance will have been very low and that’s exactly why they’ll be 12th and at risk even before the financial issues got even worse. So long as the figures are true then I see no issue Salford being in SL. London are no where near SL level and weren’t last season either. Even a team that parked up mid season playing half a team of academy lads finished above them. As it stands there are a few clubs in the championship who are better run and more deserving than London. The pity parade for London can remain in 2024.

At the moment it’s all speculation but if it came to pass and they lose 6-7 of their top players and end up with loaners and youngsters they will finish bottom and if they don’t get a backer possibly go bust - will sl be any the stronger if they are replaced with Toulouse fev or Bradford - probably not

[quote="Kirmudgeonlyisback":1of64p7s]At the moment it’s all speculation but if it came to pass and they lose 6-7 of their top players and end up with loaners and youngsters they will finish bottom and if they don’t get a backer possibly go bust - will sl be any the stronger if they are replaced with Toulouse fev or Bradford - probably not[/quote:1of64p7s] Good question, and my answer is a massive Yes. Toulouse yes, York maybe, Bradford no, Fev definitely not. That’s what the gradings are good for - you don’t have to guess at which clubs would make the comp stronger, you can actually see it. I don’t want Salford to go bust, but I don’t mind if they drop into the Championship and rebuild sustainably or attract a new owner in the meantime. Especially if that means Toulouse or even York get a shot without the threat of relegation looming over them.