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| I can't see how they have improved by 1.5 points, but the issue is they seem to be under the assumption no one else has improved their score.
Trinty are looking at 1.5 point min increase but there are tangible differences between last year and this. Leigh will improve with better finishes and financial wizardy, and Cas are doing a bodge to get the score they need.
Toulouse don't seem to be doing much but are confident about SL, although Houles had a bit of a whinge about Trinity offering 4 year deals to Internationals while still in the Championship.
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| Bradford Bull Sh...ters more like.
Their stadium is a latrine and f worse than BV was before the developments
They have been busy how many times
Their crowds are way below they actually state
They have not been in SL for several years so I fail to see how they score high on performance
But most of all their joke of a pitch is not even legal dimensions
Like everything else that comes out of that club, I find it hard to believe.
However ! if they are telling the truth and this is correct, then all I can say is that IMG is a giant charade because it makes a mockery or their point scoring criteria
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| I don't really see why people have a problem with the stadium. I was happy enough when I went last time. They just need more people in it.
The pitch is small but that's an RFL standards thing.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I can't see how they have improved by 1.5 points, but the issue is they seem to be under the assumption no one else has improved their score.
Trinty are looking at 1.5 point min increase but there are tangible differences between last year and this. Leigh will improve with better finishes and financial wizardy, and Cas are doing a bodge to get the score they need.
Toulouse don't seem to be doing much but are confident about SL, although Houles had a bit of a whinge about Trinity offering 4 year deals to Internationals while still in the Championship.'"
Unfortunately that's the same for us too. You are shooting blind until you get an A score. It depends as much on other clubs progress as your own.
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| Stood on the 'away' end in the 1895 Cup semi it was plain to see that the concrete terracing is crumbling away. I don't have a gripe about the stadium, just it's state of repair and shabbiness. The pitch should stop them getting into SL, but put a full sized decent pitch in there and improve the stadium and they should have the same eligibility as anybody else.
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| A lot of their attendances since 2022 fall below 3500 so big question as to whether they can get into same band as trinity.
I actually checked and average attendance this season…
Bulls - 2900…
Toulouse - 2435…
Trinity 6138
They don’t really fall into the 3500 bracket even.
Honestly, it’s all sticking chests out but when it comes to it Trinity are in a far better position on pretty much every front vs Bulls except Media which Bulls do well in (though in believe we’ll be in same band for subscriptions etc) and points.
Absolutely not worried in the slightest.
From last season we have very obvious improvements in facilities, media, finance/investment and also guaranteed extra points with the 1895. Then there’s potentially LED boards.
If we can’t be in with 13 million investment and such rapid improvement then Ellis may as well give up.
Trinity are a prime example for IMG to showcase and shout about for how the new model brings growth to clubs who buy into it. We have done everything asked and more and are effectively an IMG success story ready to be used. In fact even more so if we are back in SL next season and make playoffs. Would be a big feather in the cap for the IMG era.
I’m fully expecting Trinity to be in SL next season.
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| I'm not suggesting Wakefield should be worried. There is a pack of teams behind us that should be though.
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| Sorry I can’t quote posts Poptart. This site is horrible having to press submit and quote numerous times before it loads or accepts a post.
Naturally I think we have to be wary but it’s just clubs trying to drum up positivity in Bulls/Toulouse’s case (Toulouse unprofessionally imo by trying to discredit trinity in poor taste).
Then you have London playing the violin and trying to save their hides with the ominous sad music playing.
I’m impressed the club is being professional and setting out its stall and backing it up. The club could easily have responded to Toulouse making suggestive comments about our clubs contract nagotiations but remained professional which was nice to see.
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| They're just trying to keep the morale of the fan base up IMO
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| Nearly as deluded as the Bulls
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| I've merged these as there are bound to be more teams with same announcement.
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| If Cas do what they say they'll be up with us.
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| These announcements are a sign of nerves to me. Confident? Say nothing.
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| Not sure how their wooden stand will be viewed by IMG
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Not sure how their wooden stand will be viewed by IMG'"
Hopefully not the same as WMDC viewed it.
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| The facts wooden makes no difference
It's about the number of seats for supporters, number of seats for directors and media functionality and space.
They reckon they've sorted it. I guess we'll see.
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| Cas saying they expect maximum points for their stadium.
Maximum points for being a massive ****hole.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Cas saying they expect maximum points for their stadium.
Maximum points for being a massive ****hole.'"
It will all be very basic and minimum quality to get points I suspect.
Things like sprucing up and re purposing rooms, throwing some comfy seat covers on some seats and putting a section barrier round them calling them media seats etc. Things like that I would imagine.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"It will all be very basic and minimum quality to get points I suspect.
Things like sprucing up and re purposing rooms, throwing some comfy seat covers on some seats and putting a section barrier round them calling them media seats etc. Things like that I would imagine.'"
Yes, I said it before and I'll say it again, there are some clubs out there that are(granted with a bit of a push from IMG) that are genuinely looking to make sustainable improvements for all of the right reasons and become a better club with better facilities etc. I think just looking at the things we are doing as a club, we fall into the category.
Then you have the clubs that aren't buying into it, that will scrape the bare minimum with sticking plasters (quite literally in some cases) all over the place just to pick up points on the technicality that they do meet a minimum criteria on something, this is Cas, it's very clear to see. This is a club that is going to pick up points under financial investment because there "investor" transferred a million pounds into the clubs bank account, with zero plans to actually use the money on the club and will be back in his pocket the first signs they've picked that point up... Again a loophole in the criteria.
Lets not forget though, before Matt Ellis arrived we probably fell into this category too.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Yes, I said it before and I'll say it again, there are some clubs out there that are(granted with a bit of a push from IMG) that are genuinely looking to make sustainable improvements for all of the right reasons and become a better club with better facilities etc. I think just looking at the things we are doing as a club, we fall into the category.
Then you have the clubs that aren't buying into it, that will scrape the bare minimum with sticking plasters (quite literally in some cases) all over the place just to pick up points on the technicality that they do meet a minimum criteria on something, this is Cas, it's very clear to see. This is a club that is going to pick up points under financial investment because there "investor" transferred a million pounds into the clubs bank account, with zero plans to actually use the money on the club and will be back in his pocket the first signs they've picked that point up... Again a loophole in the criteria.
Lets not forget though, before Matt Ellis arrived we probably fell into this category too.'"
The thing is Cas can command and big crowd and large social media following even with an old stadium.
They don't need the change as badly as us.
Thar will only take them so far though.
If Toulouse or Bradford kick on, or even Widnes get some investment, they'll be left behind.
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| Quote ="PopTart"The thing is Cas can command and big crowd and large social media following even with an old stadium.
They don't need the change as badly as us.
Thar will only take them so far though.
If Toulouse or Bradford kick on, or even Widnes get some investment, they'll be left behind.'"
Agree that Cas’s crowd is good but I think they will fall into the same media bracket as us and alot of teams in SL as it’s a very large jump to the next step of the bracket. (Think us and Cas would sit in the 100k plus subscriptions and associated interaction banding.
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