Maybe we are biased lot us Wakey fans but alot feel that SL / RFL would be glad to kick us out come the next round of licences mainly based on our ageing ground, yes i know there are several strands to the licence but we all know that SL /RFL like nice new stadiums even if it means that the majority of the time they play in them when they are 50-60% empty. The SL/RFL I feel for whatever reason have a soft spot for Hull KR but I as many of you will have been to their ground.I genuinely do not think their ground is much better and did you see the pitch tonight I have seen and played on better park pitches it was a disgrace it looked like it had been cut with a pair of blunt scissors.But you never hear any moaning threats about their ground from the powers that be when the licences are due.

Talking of the RFL, heard a rumour this week that they pay Brian Nobles wages at the Crusaders, don't know if anyone else has heard this, but this came from a player there, so you would like to think there was an elementof truth. Also heard that the money is not exactly flowing there and Harris maybe taking over from Noble sooner than people anticipated.

now if your going to post things i agree with......................

Says in the sun ( ahem ) that Noble may be off to the dark side.
Agree also about the hkr pitch - haven't they got a lawnmower ? Looks like they've had a herd of goats on it munching on the pitch ! At least the flower garden behind the right hand touchline has gone this year .

Just passing through before I check and see if the Warrington fans are wanting everybody sacked after losing in France but here is something about Noble in todays [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3067206/Noble-is-linked-to-top-union-job.htmlSun[/url

I was not going to mention the fans as all clubs including us have idiots, but last season at home the pi%%%ed up swearing idiots both male and female stood next to us with children take alot of beating, they were escorted out of the ground. Every time HKR are mentioned that is what my young daughter remembers about their club.

ever one to help.........
1. A stadium capacity of at least 12,000;
2. An average crowd of 10,000 or more;
3. An average crowd that fills at least 40% of a club's stadium capacity;
4. A turnover of at least £4 million per annum;
5. Solvency, in accordance with accounting definitions of solvency, although this criterion can be satisfied if there is a written owner's guarantee of the club's debts;
6. A reasonable playing strength, which is likely to be satisfied if the club has finished the season in the top eight in each of the last three years;
7. A reasonable contribution to junior development, judged by the number of scholarships and the performances of the club's under-21 and under-18 Academy teams in the last three years;
8. The stadium meeting the standard of a premier sporting competition, which is judged on the quality and quantity of its facilities in accordance with detailed criteria;
9. Geographical position: clubs that are more than 20 miles away from any other Super League club will be allocated one point on this criterion;
10. Compliance with salary cap regulations. Specifically, clubs must not have incurred any beach of the salary cap in the last three years.

your ground is prob the worst,but agree with you what a disgrace caravan park pitch is!

you could throw Odsal into the mix I do not know how they get away with that dump yet Cas and Salford get so much stick agree ref HKR god awful place and the 2nd worst stadium in SL behind Wakey

As for Noble nothing would shock me ref the RL

Not particularly defending Odsal but they have size in their side. They have plenty of parking, and good burgers!

Wouldn't suprise me if the whole Crusaders set up went to the 'dark side'; a ready made N Wales RU outfit.

id rather go to bell vue over odslum anyday of the week, yes ok its has a big capacity but now when only 7k turn up you can here a pin drop looks terrible when its 3/4 empty and no atmosphere. with regards the stadium news that your sticking with your project now is moving to oakwell a possibillity till the new stadium is built to ensure you stay in super league other wise i could see the wildcats losing there licence.

Think the grass at Craven Park was just left a bit longer then usual to help it out during the current dry spell we are having. You don't get this recognition for nothing. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html www.engagesuperleague.co.uk/article.php?id=11876 www.huttoncranswicktoday.co.uk/s ... 5729163.jp

Think the grass at Craven Park was just left a bit longer then usual to help it out during the current dry spell we are having. You don't get this recognition for nothing. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html www.engagesuperleague.co.uk/article.php?id=11876 www.huttoncranswicktoday.co.uk/s ... 5729163.jp

Getting a bit nervous are we, hence the "lash out" response.

Last time I checked, grass length wasn't on the Franchise criteria list! Just get on with the ground-share and you will be fine!

I see the Wakefield fans are getting nervous.
Yes our pitch looked a bit "dry" on Saturday night i agree, however our groundsman has won several awards for our pitch , now about our ground , we had the chance to play at the KC but declined this offer as we are an East Hull club ( yes i know the club originated in West Hull many moons ago), Our fans create a fantastic atmosphere at Craven Park the East Stand on their day can be very loud this lifts the players they have said so themselves if your fans or players find this intimidating tough!!! it called an atmosphere and money can't buy it , even if you did have any money which you don't you still couldn't buy it , so you will never have one .

As for two SL clubs in Hull ...our derby is the only true derby in SL the atmosphere is awesome , the rivalry and banter between the fans in the city is crazy all year we are a proper RL city.

Lets face it you have been under the eye of the RFL for years and have had several warnings which your club seemed to have ignored, i don't come to wakey anymore your ground is awful there is no atmosphere maybe that will improve if Castleford let you play in their new ground, the pundits have hinted at you both merging anyway so who knows .

Whoooosh.

Only your second post as well.

Well that's a coincidence because I don't go to your place anymore because it is a crap hole and the last time I went we came out after the match to find my mates car had been nicked.

Our ground MAY be crap,but, you would not be forced into, by brain dead stewards who seemed hell bent on causing a riot, an area of the ground(score board end) where you could see nothing of either try line or experience anything of the so called "Atmosphere". This happened to us LAST season and I swear I and a lot of others will never set foot in the STADIUM? again.

i need a drink..i agree with gaslight!

How ironic a fan of club who have massive debts educate us on money!

You was forced into the ground ?. The score board end is the South stand and i agree the view is poor, however it is not much better stood at the bottom of the "away" end behind the sticks at your ground.
Our atmosphere is awesome when the East stand are in full voice look at Leeds last week and Bradford this week when we were on sky it was a brilliant atmosphere , your fans are way to quiet.

I believe that you and Castleford will not have your own grounds due to finances , you can't really warrant two new stadiums so close to each other.
I think you will ground share and once the dust has settled the RFL will force a merger between you both and they will bring in an extra club from the NL , the pundits are already hinting at it now .

Both Hull clubs are known for their fantastic away support and we generate a lot of money for other clubs , your away support is embarrassing to be honest but you are not alone .

Hull has the only true derby in SL . It must be frustrating for your fans regarding the stadium news but i think it is best for you if you do ground share and merge it seems the way forward for you , enjoy the rest of the season.

some places only have a village idiot, hull is large enough it would appear to hire you.

Tell you what FC and HKR share and then merge, we'll wait and see if its a success and then we might think about it (not)!

That would never happen Tim Wilby tried that trick years ago.
We had the opportunity to play at the KC stadium as it is a Council owned stadium but we declined the offer , we didn't want to play in West Hull !!.
We had a choice it appears you may not have a choice , you have had several warning from the RFL about your ground and broken promises over the years.