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Quote "Fact is those players didn't want to play for the club.
"As far as am I'm concerned they wanted to leave, then good, let them leave."
He said: "If they don't want to play for the club then I don't want to play with them and that's an attitude we've always had at Wakefield and it's something we'll stand by.
"We want people to play for the club for the right reasons - if they don't want to then you can move on, but we need to kick on from that now." '"
Well said JD, lets hope his comments reflect the feeling of the rest of the squad and we can kick on for the rest of the year.
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Quote "Fact is those players didn't want to play for the club.
"As far as am I'm concerned they wanted to leave, then good, let them leave."
He said: "If they don't want to play for the club then I don't want to play with them and that's an attitude we've always had at Wakefield and it's something we'll stand by.
"We want people to play for the club for the right reasons - if they don't want to then you can move on, but we need to kick on from that now." '"
Well said JD, lets hope his comments reflect the feeling of the rest of the squad and we can kick on for the rest of the year.
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| Superbly put JD. Can't fault you at all!
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| And to all those doubter....THAT is why JD is invaluable to the club!
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| A view shared by many
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| Excellent to hear.
We now need to kick on, get some form, confidence and consistency into our game and make a big push to cement our place in that Top 8.
Onwards and upwards.
Come On The Trin
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| Quote ="PopTart"And to all those doubter....THAT is why JD is invaluable to the club!'"
I agree JD is a great asset to this club, but that attitude is not what gets him his shirt, his performances are, and I'm sure he would be the first to admit that if somebody else was more capable, that he would not want to be selected purely on his morale stance.
Please note this is not a criticism of him!!!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I agree JD is a great asset to this club, but that attitude is not what gets him his shirt, his performances are, and I'm sure he would be the first to admit that if somebody else was more capable, that he would not want to be selected purely on his morale stance.
Please note this is not a criticism of him!!!!
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I agree. No one is guaranteed a place in the 17. But as you say he is a great asset to the club and that should be said more often.
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| I have to admit to being a bit disappointed by JD on Sunday!!
At the "Audience with" last week they spoke about Try Celebrations, I was expecting much more form JD after what he said at the evening.
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| Great respinse from him.
He is a great ambassador for our club and always talks good sense and puts it across right.
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| didnt hear the full interview on radio leeds, but did hear Jd say that the tronc and brough situations cuased problems in the changing room and that his opinion was that tronc wasnt very professional in his attitude. i.e had made his mind up that he wanted to leave and this reflected in his play and training. his opinion was that tronc as a proffesional should have seen the season out and allowed wtw time to get a replacement
also said that DB had turned down offers to stay and that in his opinion club did the right thing in letting him go
hopefully this will bring a closure to the episode of these two players and stop peiople complaining about the performance of the club re.them
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| This more or less puts that to bed. All the criticism at the club for LETTING players go
is now put in perspective. Well said Captain.
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| Quote ="Pilchard"All the criticism at the club for LETTING players go
is now put in perspective. Well said Captain.
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I think you're missing the point a bit, and since everything in the garden is now rosy, now is probably not the best time BUT - I'm sure the criticism wasn't just about letting those players go, but the manner in which it was done and the apparent lack of like for like replacements. That's been done to death however, and Sunday's win has settled nerves on both sides of the argument.
Regarding JD's interview; there were comments very similar to these from him several weeks ago (can't remember where) and I posted on here at the time that it was good to see him say what some fans were thinking, without the political smoke and mirrors that club officials are compelled to use. He does seem to have a very honest and affable persona - you'd think if he does hang up his boots, he'd be a shoe-in for some punditry work.
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| Well said JD, glad someone has come out and made the fans aware of the situation. We only want players that want to play for us.
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| yes well said jd and well played. fantastic effort from the captain and regarding the departed players, i hear at least one of them is not settling in very well. seems to be having a few problems. how sad!
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| Quote ="bren2k"I think you're missing the point a bit, and since everything in the garden is now rosy, now is probably not the best time BUT - I'm sure the criticism wasn't just about letting those players go, but the manner in which it was done and the apparent lack of like for like replacements. That's been done to death however, and Sunday's win has settled nerves on both sides of the argument.
Regarding JD's interview; there were comments very similar to these from him several weeks ago (can't remember where) and I posted on here at the time that it was good to see him say what some fans were thinking, without the political smoke and mirrors that club officials are compelled to use. He does seem to have a very honest and affable persona - you'd think if he does hang up his boots, he'd be a shoe-in for some punditry work.'"
And just what point do you think I am missing? A BIT ???!!!
And who the hell said everything in the garden is rosy ?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I think you're missing the point a bit, and since everything in the garden is now rosy, now is probably not the best time BUT - I'm sure the criticism wasn't just about letting those players go, but the manner in which it was done and the apparent lack of like for like replacements. That's been done to death however, and Sunday's win has settled nerves on both sides of the argument.'"
No - it is YOU who is missing the point. The right time to let a player go is when they no longer want to be with you / they won't play well for you / are costing you money and/or you can get money back from them.
You then try and get the best replacements you can with your resources - someone who wants to be part of our club - you accept that there will be a 'bedding in' period and you get on with it.
THE POINT is that the club made the right calls for the right reasons - that doesn't mean to say that we are happy with it all, but the club have done the best that they can FOR the club.
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| Quote ="TRB"No - it is YOU who is missing the point. The right time to let a player go is when they no longer want to be with you / they won't play well for you / are costing you money and/or you can get money back from them.
You then try and get the best replacements you can with your resources - someone who wants to be part of our club - you accept that there will be a 'bedding in' period and you get on with it.
THE POINT is that the club made the right calls for the right reasons - that doesn't mean to say that we are happy with it all, but the club have done the best that they can FOR the club.
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At the risk of going off on a tangent, and repeating something that has been done to death, could we have done better from the Tronc "deal"? Accepted he didnt want to play with us, and its almost pointless in making him do so. Am i right in saying we got nothing in return for him from the Bronchos? As far as I can see we held a decent hand, but on the face of it got nothing in return?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"At the risk of going off on a tangent, and repeating something that has been done to death, could we have done better from the Tronc "deal"? Accepted he didnt want to play with us, and its almost pointless in making him do so. Am i right in saying we got nothing in return for him from the Bronchos? As far as I can see we held a decent hand, but on the face of it got nothing in return?'"
Go back to JD's comments - what we gained was the riddance of a 'cancer' that was creating friction in the dressing rooms. We also 'gained' the balance of the contract monies that would have been spent supporting a player in a lifestyle he wanted out of.
As there are transfer fees between here and Aus, this was the best deal alround - in fact I'd have got shut of him 3 weeks earlier!
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| Quote ="TRB"Go back to JD's comments - what we gained was the riddance of a 'cancer' that was creating friction in the dressing rooms. We also 'gained' the balance of the contract monies that would have been spent supporting a player in a lifestyle he wanted out of.
As there are transfer fees between here and Aus, this was the best deal alround - in fact I'd have got shut of him 3 weeks earlier!'"
Accepted - but we got no actual "payment" for the player?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Accepted - but we got no actual "payment" for the player?'"
No - and yet every single person at the club will tell you that we are 'better off' - now how did that happen?
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| This is a circular argument and I don't want to portray myself as a doomsayer by repeating the same criticisms over and over again; I maintain however that from a fans perspective, the departure of some of our pivotal players appeared to have been handled badly, for all the reasons I've already stated, and that was compounded by the lack of information that was forthcoming at the time.
Whilst everyone 'at' the club may think they're 'better off', I don't, since I'm not 'at' the club, I just pay out a significant portion of my disposable income to watch them, and I like winning more than losing, so at the moment, I'm not 'better off' ta very much!
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| Quote ="bren2k"This is a circular argument and I don't want to portray myself as a doomsayer by repeating the same criticisms over and over again; I maintain however that from a fans perspective, the departure of some of our pivotal players appeared to have been handled badly, for all the reasons I've already stated, and that was compounded by the lack of information that was forthcoming at the time.
Whilst everyone 'at' the club may think they're 'better off', I don't, since I'm not 'at' the club, I just pay out a significant portion of my disposable income to watch them, and I like winning more than losing, so at the moment, I'm not 'better off' ta very much!'"
You seem to be clinging on to the argument that we would somehow be better off with Brough - who didn't want to be with us but 'would stay if he had to' - or with Tronc - who clearly just did not want to play.
Instead we have a squad that are clearly very tightly bonded, have been through the mill a bit and are determined to 'give it their all' for us and the club.
Running a RL club is no easy thing, and is made ever more difficult by having these matters played out in public (something most businesses do not have to deal with), but sometimes it is just not possible to give out all of the details and we, the speccies, have to rely on the coach and the club to do what they think is best. They have, and although most of us have been miserable over the past 6 weeks, we now look a whole lot better placed than some of our neighbours - who are on a downward spiral - having spent a whole lot less to get there.
I would change nothing!
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| I too am just an innocent money paying supporter, and I feel much better off knowing the players wearing 'MY' shirt, representing 'MY' club on the pitch, are not taking the michael along with their pay cheque.
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