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I would be tempted to play Lynn and Arundel in the against Hull KR and put Toupou on the wing marking Carney. Bill is our best defensive winger and will be our best chance of nullifying the obvious threat from the Tank on the Flank

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Although i agree with your points I'm happy with BJB facing him.
I like Tupou in the centre.

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Whilst he probably has the ability to bulldozer his way over the try line given the right opportunity, he does not stand a chance in the air against BJB or TJ - Swings and round about`s and i would stick with TJ and BJB on our wings with Tupou in centre and then that last centre spot is down to Arundel or Lynne.

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Surely the best way to nullify the threat of carney (and any winger) is to make sure you defence moves up quick enough to prevent the ball from getting out there?

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "I would be tempted to play Lynn and Arundel in the centres against Hull KR and put Toupou on the wing marking Carney. Bill is our best defensive winger and will be our best chance of nullifying the obvious threat from the Tank on the Flank'"


Do you seriously still rate Carney, more like a plank than a tank these days.

Is he really the obvious threat! I'm sure HKR will surprise us but he's not going to be it imho, I think you're looking at reputations there.

Still who know he may have found his mojo again, it does happen.

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I would go Tupou with Arundell over Lyne.

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What I like about this topic is the fact that we can have these types of discussions!!!!
The fact that we have such a good and versatile squad makes such discussions possible, and to me that's a sign that squad wise, this club is in the best shape its ever been in the SL era

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Agreed Prince B. Don't agree with Bellys OP.
Why play someone out of position when we have practically a full strength squad to select from?
And you wouldn't pick wingers based on defensive qualities.

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I would pick everyone on defensive ability first. For me its the most important asset a player should have. Hull KR have , I think, the best squad of players for any side that has been promoted. They have good players with SL experience, Not seen the odds yet but I think with home advantage etc if I was setting the handicap I would say this match was will be off scratch.
For me Carney is a massive threat, if he gets a one on one close to the line there are not many who can stop him, they do not have to create an overlap, so hence my opinion that you mark him with Toupou. Bill scored a hat rick against Wigan last season when on the wing plus played his GF in Aus on the wing so not a position he is unaccustomed to.

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "I would pick everyone on defensive ability first. For me its the most important asset a player should have. Hull KR have , I think, the best squad of players for any side that has been promoted. They have good players with SL experience, Not seen the odds yet but I think with home advantage etc if I was setting the handicap I would say this match was will be off scratch.
For me Carney is a massive threat, if he gets a one on one close to the line there are not many who can stop him, they do not have to create an overlap, so hence my opinion that you mark him with Toupou. Bill scored a hat rick against Wigan last season when on the wing plus played his GF in Aus on the wing so not a position he is unaccustomed to.'"


Hull KR are +4 at most Bookies.

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The best defence against Carney is to keep him moving, put the ball behind him as often as possible and in his own half, he cant cause any damage (although he's ok coming out of defence) and he isn't capable of going the length of the field.

The exact opposite is true of both of our wingers (plus MCB and Tupou if they play).
We showed last season that we can score from anywhere on the park and TJ will have them extremely worried, which may just give his centre some extra time and space.

Carney is still a beast from 15/20 metres out and it's important that we dont allow KR to feed him.

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Schoey (don't particularly like the bloke myself), is tipping us by 20 in todays League Express !!

Reckons McGuire would be the only one good enough to get in our team icon_biggrin.gif

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Schoey has obviously not looked at the Hull KR 1 - 17 : Adam Quinlan, Thomas Minns, Andrew Heffernan, Ryan Shaw, Danny McGuire, Nick Scruton, Shaun Lunt, Mose Masoe, Maurice Blair, James Greenwood, Ben Kavanagh, Lee Jewitt, James Donaldson, Danny Addy, Chris Clarkson . Add Carney to that and that is not a team to take lightly.

Quinlan is quick and a proven quality fullback, Minns is decent, Hefferman is a youngster who is highly rated, Shaw is a good finisher, Scruton is Solid, Lunt is a very good player, Masoe is huge, Geenwood , Jewitt and Donaldson are grafters who all defend well. I think Addy is injured for the season, Clarkson is a quality player. McGuire was good enough 5 months ago to carry Leeds through to win the GF.

Plus they have a world class head coach, a fanatic and large home crowd, definitely a game of scratch, dont think Schoey would be able to balance his book if he want offering Hull KR at plus 20.

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Hull KR are certainly not a team to be taken lightly. First game back after promotion in front of a big home crowd i cant see anything but a tough game, especially if they get a roll on early doors and score a few points.

i think the bookies are nearer the mark with +4 than Schoeys +20

but i agree with him regarding players. I cannot see anyone else in that team who would displace a player in ours (just an opinion of course)

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "Schoey has obviously not looked at the Hull KR 1 - 17

Oh give over Belly you can't have it both ways.

I don't take HKR lightly and they have a smattering of decent players but Schoey is right and you're wrong. Two or three at best would get in our team based on last years form and what other form can you base it on? HKR weren't even in SL.

You're far more right about the Coach and the crowd, they are much more of an issue, but then they were with a lot of teams we played last year AND WE GOT BY.

So long as our boys don't believe the hype and play with that mongrel spirit we might JUST pull off a win, but not by 20 points!

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