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So we're 10 games in and it still doesn't look like Chester is sure of his first choice halfback combination. It would be good to see some consistency in this position so that we can hopefully start to play some better stuff in the opponents half.

That said, who does everyone think should be our starting 6 and 7?

Personally Finn has to start, we look more organised when he is on and he is the best goal kicker we have. Miller also starts for me, too creative to leave on the bench although he can be frustrating to watch at times.

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Williams and Finn.

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Williams and Finn for me, would like to see Williams take the line on more though. Wood at Hooker with Miller on Bench, plenty of flexibility. Miller just does not create anything for me.

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Finn and Williams for me. Miller coming off the bench.

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "Williams and Finn for me, would like to see Williams take the line on more though. Wood at Hooker with Miller on Bench, plenty of flexibility. Miller just does not create anything for me.'"


To be fair to miller he's a running six surely rather than a creator? He needs to focus on always supporting the player with the ball and being ready for offloads. We are still too slow at supporting the man, twice ashhurst looked for an offload on their line and it went begging.

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Miller and Finn for me, although sometimes Miller seems to be puzzled by his own play and stands there wondering what to do next. Williams a big disappointment for me. Not lived up to his reputation.

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Quote: wakeytrin "Finn and Williams for me. Miller coming off the bench.'"


Me too.
To be fair, for creativity and general organisation Finn is our best so must start.
Not a lot between Miller and Williams for me.

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Quote: wakeytrin "Finn and Williams for me. Miller coming off the bench.'"

Same here, it's when we've played our best stuff imo.

Miller's not really a creating half, sure he can put the odd decent kick in but that's about it. For me he's a running, tackle busting player (he's made 29 TB, just one less than Fifita), who should be looking for players to run off him, when he makes/see's gaps and also be looking out for pass from his team mates to put him into space..

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Just to widen the discussion I'll chuck a suggestion in.

What about Scott Grix to stand off.
To me he has been our most creative player over the whole season.

Just a thought.

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A coach should be rubbing his hands with a talent like miller, if the best he can do with him is bring him off the bench his coaching skills are lacking in my opinion dont they work with the kid

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You can play ad-hog rugby off structure but you can't play structured rugby off an ad-hoc base. In a team sport there has to be structure but Miller's first instinct is to play totally individually. His lateral play and multiple changes of direction before the line prevent any of his team mates from gaining forward momentum causing us to become flat and lifeless. When he does break through there is little chance of anyone else reading his play so he is on his own.

Miller can only play in a team with a strong, dominant organising half-back.

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Grix at half back laugh out loud he is the main reason why are half backs are not clicking ,he as got no speed he is putting kicks in on the second and third tackles, makes us go to the right all the time,think it's time he was out of the team and give Max a go ,every team in the S L as a fullback with speed ,we always seem to be a season behind the way other teams are competing

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According to reports it looks like Trinity are hoping to extend contracts on all 3, Williams, Finn and Jacob Miller will all be out of contract at end of season.

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Would be surprised if Miller signs an extension if he continues to be on the bench.

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Quote: try scorer "A coach should be rubbing his hands with a talent like miller, if the best he can do with him is bring him off the bench his coaching skills are lacking in my opinion dont they work with the kid'"


You mean Chester is doing with Miller exactly what Powell does with Rangi Chase, puts a creative #6 on against tiring defences in the hope of them running rings around them...? Miller has been great off the bench this year, it's no mistake that we've performed at our best when we've started with Finn/Williams and brought Miller in from the bench.

I've not been overly impressed with any of them when I've seen them live, but having watched some games back, all of our halves are doing quite well, they're not getting enough of the ball in places were they can create something though

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