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| I know it's only Dave Nosey Parker but in his column today he's mentioned that the players union have been involved as a club have decided to issue players with notice of termination of contracts if the players don't improve,he seems to think it's a months notice, seems an odd thing to do, wouldn't they have to pay the players off? I'd have thought the club could be on dodgy grounds with this one. The union guy refused to name the club. I heard on Wednesday that a club not too far from here had given the very same warning but the notice was 90 days, this came from the father of one of the "warned" players.
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| How far away is 'not too far from here'?
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| What makes players any different from employees in any other line of work?
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| Quote: JINJER "I know it's only Dave Nosey Parker but in his column today he's mentioned that the players union have been involved as a club have decided to issue players with notice of termination of contracts if the players don't improve,he seems to think it's a months notice, seems an odd thing to do, wouldn't they have to pay the players off? I'd have thought the club could be on dodgy grounds with this one. The union guy refused to name the club. I heard on Wednesday that a club not too far from here had given the very same warning but the notice was 90 days, this came from the father of one of the "warned" players.'"
I've often wondered about stuff like this, being involved in employment law and HR matters.
It's very difficult to form a definitive view without seeing the contracts that are used but on the face of it, it sounds like a difficult position to defend; you can't use redundancy, as the jobs are clearly not being made redundant, and putting people on notice for performance reasons sounds a bit whiffy. You can safely put someone on a performance review, but issuing them with notice at the start of that process rather suggests that you're pre-judging the outcome.
I wonder if what's actually happened is the latter - individuals are on some kind of performance improvement process (a PIMP!) but Nosey Parker and the Union, as Union's do, have picked up on it and portrayed it as a big bad employer acting unreasonably?
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "How far away is 'not too far from here'?'"
Not Leeds or Fev!
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| Quote: bren2k "I've often wondered about stuff like this, being involved in employment law and HR matters.
It's very difficult to form a definitive view without seeing the contracts that are used but on the face of it, it sounds like a difficult position to defend; you can't use redundancy, as the jobs are clearly not being made redundant, and putting people on notice for performance reasons sounds a bit whiffy. You can safely put someone on a performance review, but issuing them with notice at the start of that process rather suggests that you're pre-judging the outcome.
I wonder if what's actually happened is the latter - individuals are on some kind of performance improvement process (a PIMP!) but Nosey Parker and the Union, as Union's do, have picked up on it and portrayed it as a big bad employer acting unreasonably?'"
It does sound like the statutory notice of termination of employment, I went through all this at Xmas, but I always thought it was more a redundancy situation.
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| I'm guessing here, but wouldn't Salford be the most likely club? The Dr has been into the changing room numerous times to share his displeasure
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| Keith Mason?
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| This would tie in with another rumour that's going round that players are not getting being paid oh no here we go again lets just hope its not true.
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| Quote: Horbury Cat "This would tie in with another rumour that's going round that players are not getting being paid oh no here we go again lets just hope its not true.'"
No it doesn't - it's nothing to do with us!
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| As Bren says, I started this thread and it has absolutely nothing to do with us!
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| Bradford ?
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| Quote: Willzay "Keith Mason?'"
Could this have been correct or are we still thinking its Cas Tigers involved in the Dave "Nosey" Parker story?
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| Quote: Tigerade "Could this have been correct or are we still thinking its Cas Tigers involved in the Dave "Nosey" Parker story?'"
Definitely Cas tigers, I was told by the father of a player who's been served the notice.
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