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Recently at our last "audience with night", James Elston stood up and told us that we had a plan B which involved SL standard stadium. Was he stating a fact or just saying it to reassure fans? My opinion is Pinocchio! eusa_liar.gif

It's quite clear from what has been said or not said officially and disturbing from the rumours that are going round, that no plan B was in place. The SOS decision was always going to be a chance event, even if we expected the decision to favour us. By not having a strong plan B he and the BOD have failed the fans miserably. It seems we are in the Brown Stuff due to a lack of preparation! icon_mad.gif

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The reason nothing has been officially announced since the decision was made to call in the planning application is because it is being announced to the shareholders first (and rightly so) on Jan 4th. I'm sure that the Plan B (almost certainly Oakwell) will need to have had a few final points to be negotiated after the SoS decision was made so it's again not surprisignthat nothing has been announced straight away.

I'm sure that had it not been for the Christmas holidays, the shareholders meeting would have been held earlier but I'm sure you'll find a way to blame the club for the inconsiderate timing of the festive season!!!

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Quote: RDM "The reason nothing has been officially announced since the decision was made to call in the planning application is because it is being announced to the shareholders first (and rightly so) on Jan 4th. I'm sure that the Plan B (almost certainly Oakwell) will need to have had a few final points to be negotiated after the SoS decision was made so it's again not surprisignthat nothing has been announced straight away.

I'm sure that had it not been for the Christmas holidays, the shareholders meeting would have been held earlier but I'm sure you'll find a way to blame the club for the inconsiderate timing of the festive season!!!'"

so you are on the bod.

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I have no idea what James said so can't comment on that BUT the fans need to be told what the plan is and not have to wait, i just wonder how much the club shops lost with fans not bothering over the xmas period.

Now i understand shareholders meetings and doing things the right way BUT once again Joe blogs on the streets left wondering if we have anything left to support.

I feel the club should have been shouting from the roof tops and not keeping quite for whatever reasons, some people i've spoken to are seriously considering "jacking in all in" and these people are the life blood of our club and have been for many years.

Still we are only fans and who cares about us eh icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: BIGAL1 "

I feel the club should have been shouting from the roof tops '"


While I agree maybe it's not something we want to shout from the roof tops.

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I personally (an opinion which will probably get berated) think that until something is watertight then it should not be shared with the fans, I think it is the loose lips and the false promises made that has got us into problems and led to the disillusion we see.

It would have been very Easy for JK to divulge the name of the player he 'nearly' signed last week, and we would have looked silly again

The whole Thornes Park Debacle

People know too much about the club

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Following the announcement that planning for Newmarket had been called in, there should have been a clear and defined statement from the club to appease the doubts of the fans, this would have been far more helpful than the statement made by TR. If there is nothing set in stone that would not have mattered.

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Quote: J.T "While I agree maybe it's not something we want to shout from the roof tops.'"


Well its about time they put the cards on the table, either way, keeping quiet "breeds" rumours and bad feeling and does no one any good.

Just for once playing it straight would be the best thing all round, leaving it to rumours dose a lot of damage at a time when we should be pulling together.

IMO the damage as been done over xmas.

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Quote: gizmo "Following the announcement that planning for Newmarket had been called in, there should have been a clear and defined statement from the club to appease the doubts of the fans, this would have been far more helpful than the statement made by TR. If there is nothing set in stone that would not have mattered.'"


Correct, its really that simple.

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Quote: BIGAL1 "Well its about time they put the cards on the table, either way, keeping quiet "breeds" rumours and bad feeling and does no one any good.

Just for once playing it straight would be the best thing all round, leaving it to rumours dose a lot of damage at a time when we should be pulling together.

IMO the damage as been done over xmas.'"


All very true which only leads myself and others to believe that it's bad news or no news at all.

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Quote: J.T "All very true which only leads myself and others to believe that it's bad news or no news at all.'"


well you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, one of those situations where you want to do right by the share holders.

we are in a crazy situation where the RFL are looking on and all the wrong things are on show.

leaving this to fester over xmas hasn't been the right decision in my eyes and the wait for the decision from Pickles was bad enough, we should of hit back with news of plan B straight away.

speculating what might happen is anybodies guess so looks like we will have to wait until the meeting.

you can get a feeling for how the fans feel on this forum as its been lifeless over the festive period icon_sad.gif

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Quote: snowie "well you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, one of those situations where you want to do right by the share holders.

we are in a crazy situation where the RFL are looking on and all the wrong things are on show.

leaving this to fester over xmas hasn't been the right decision in my eyes and the wait for the decision from Pickles was bad enough, we should of hit back with news of plan B straight away.

speculating what might happen is anybodies guess so looks like we will have to wait until the meeting.

you can get a feeling for how the fans feel on this forum as its been lifeless over the festive period lot of rumours flying round town though, sadly most of them from players or ex players, and none of them good news.

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Well NM wasn't going to be ready for the start of the 2012 season regardless of what Pickles decided so a Plan B was still required either way. As a supporter I would love to know what Plan B is however i'm not concerned that it hasn't been revealed. I accept i'm probably in a minority here though.

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As stated earlier in the thread, there is a plan B, but the exact details of it are still being ironed out. It was only a couple of weeks ago that we knew what extent we needed plan B for, although it was always a possibility.

We have a full season at BV to look forward to, it is a while before we submit out SL application and even longer before any decisions are taken (assuming they haven't already been taken).

Just be a bit more patient! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Well NM wasn't going to be ready for the start of the 2012 season regardless of what Pickles decided so a Plan B was still required either way. As a supporter I would love to know what Plan B is however i'm not concerned that it hasn't been revealed. I accept i'm probably in a minority here though.'"

some of the other intresting opinions are coming from people i know who are close to barnsley fc, but they will also say they cant be sure, basically theres a plan b ok, but it relies on a franchise, without that we dont need oakwell, however i have to be clear here this was over xmas and beer was involved!

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