What would be your England 13 if you were picking it now???

I would prob go for something like this..

1.Briscoe
2.Hall
3.Senior
4.Shenton
5.Fox
6.Burrow
7.Brough
8.Graham
9.Roby
10.Peacock
11.Burgess
12.Ellis
13.O’Loughlin

14.Tomkins
15.S.Moore
16.Carvell
17.Morley

1.Briscoe
2.Hall
3.Gleason
4.Shenton
5.Briscoe
6.Pryce
7.Brough
8.Morley
9.Diskin
10.Peacock
11.Ellis
12.Burgess
13.O’Loughlin

14.Roby
15.Crabtree
16.Carvell
17.Graham

we can't begin to compete with Aus in the threequarters so we have to blow them aside in the pack!

We need two effective halfbacks, one to push the pack around and dominate the kicking exchanges and the other to link play and offer a threat to the opposition defencive line.

1.Briscoe
2.Hall
3.Gleeson
4.Yeaman
5.Pryce
6.Tomkins
7.Brough
8.Morley
9.Diskin
10.Graham
11.Peacock
12.Ellis
13.Locky

14.Roby
15.Carvell
16.Burgess
17.Crabtree

Have they announced any train-on squad additions this week i.e. Trin & Cas players.

i havent seen anything but the fact that Ryan has withdrawn suggests he had been named in the squad

Hmmmm, not 100% on who is English/not injured but here goes;

1. S. Briscoe
2. A. Gardner
3. M. Gleeson
4. M. Shenton
5. R. Hall
6. S. Tomkins
7. D. Brough
8. A. Morley
9. M. Diskin
10. J. Graham
11. J. Peacock
12. G. Ellis
13. S. Burgess

14. J. Roby
15. S. Wild / L. Gilmour
16. G. Carvell
17. A. Lynch

2 kn0bheads for half backs (just like the old days) that will annoy the other team and be all over them. Tomkins for his running game and Brough to get the team around.

Took me ages to work out who to put on the bench, went for Wild, he can cover the backs and forwards (would have gone for Gilmour, retired? Not English?).

Lynch maybe injured? Think he's the best ball playing prop forward England has.

Bit 50/50 with regards to the backline, could poss put Shenton on the wing for Gardner and have Yeamon in at centre.

DB can't qualify this year having only just switched allegiance...

A lot will say Burrow at 7 but I think without Sinfield in the side to handle kicking duties that won't really work well (Sinfield is a great club player but like Wellens isn't good enough to play against the likes of the Aussies). We could always go for youth with Tomkins and Myler but the limited experience would be killer!

He have some potent front row forwards to choose from and Peacock in the second row is a good idea. Not sure about Crabtree, I don't think Australia would fear him, but we could benefit from his offload. Lynch is a good shout though. Maybe Wild at 13?

Backs are a nightmare. Briscoe isn't anything more than solid (but is at least faster than Wellens) and will probably get carted off injured for excess bravery. Hall has to play but we need a Keith Senior who can actually give him space to score. Other than the man himself, now retired from internationals, we don't have a centre who would fit the bill. Our young centres aren't any better...

I wouldn't wanna be Tony Smith.

After the world cup you can choose who you want to play for?? I'm sure I read that somewhere..

Sounds very random!

Brough and Carvel are both eligable and available for England.

Lynch is out.

1.Briscoe
2.Hall
3.Gleeson
4.Shenton
5.Fox
6.Tomkins
7.Burrow
8.Morley
9.Roby
10.Graham
11.Peacock
12.Ellis
13.Westerman

14.Wilkin
15.S.Moore
16.Burgess
17.Crabtree

I'm not picking on your post in particular mate, but I'm still waiting to see or hear some justification for Rob Burrow being selected for England.

By my recollection when he was first selected people had major doubts about whether Burrow had a complete enough game to make it at international level. Apart from a couple of decent games against mediocre opposition his limitations have been exposed.

This season he has done nothing to merit being selected for England again, arguably there are a number of scrum-half's who deserve selection ahead of him most notably Eastmond, Brough and Myler.

I've been a champion of Peter Fox for a couple of seasons and last year he was desperately unlucky To miss out on the World Cup. This year however his farm at the end of the season is questionable and he doesn't look like a player capable of matching it with the best in the world.

I would be tempted to possibly try Eastmond at centre and switch shenton to the wing

Eastmond would get murdered by Hodges and/or Inglis, to be fair whoever goes up against them will but regards damage limitation Eastmond is not the answer!!

Thats why I have picked Yeaman over Shenton. Although Shenton has had a good season Yeaman for me is the superior deffender, we are never going to beat them in the backs so our main aim should be to try to nullify the threat.

Yeaman was superb when he played against the Aussies when we turned them over last Tri Nations and due to the wonderful coaching of Noble was dropped for the next game, i think he deserves one more crack at them to see how he goes prior to being overlooked. He seems to play better in the more intense games likes the rough stuff that Shenton may not be up to speed with just yet.