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| Received an email from Mary Creagh today explaining certain recent decisions she has taken, but also to confirm ongoing work relating to Newmarket. Just thought I'd share the document link she sent....
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Not sure what to make of it myself, more whataboutery by the council it seems...
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Shes hasnt really asled the right question. We all know the trigger point has not been achieved meaning the council can't enforce anything. What should have been asked was why the Newcold development was permitted outside of the UU.
As I posted on the other thead, Michael Carter has asked Gary Neville about the contractor who is constructing the new stand at Salford City football club.
It happens to be these guys.
https://m.facebook.com/pjsteel.co.uk/?locale2=en_GB
Whether it's for BV or Dewsbury, well only one man knows.
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Shes hasnt really asled the right question. We all know the trigger point has not been achieved meaning the council can't enforce anything. What should have been asked was why the Newcold development was permitted outside of the UU.
As I posted on the other thead, Michael Carter has asked Gary Neville about the contractor who is constructing the new stand at Salford City football club.
It happens to be these guys.
https://m.facebook.com/pjsteel.co.uk/?locale2=en_GB
Whether it's for BV or Dewsbury, well only one man knows.
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| The interesting bit for me is -
"The council as the planning authority were duty bound to consider the application"
Maybe they were, but why did it have to be passed when -
"Subsequent to the approval of Yorkcourt’s Stadium proposal, a separate planning application was submitted by Yorkcourt Properties & Newcold Ltd for a cold food distribution warehouse within the Newmarket site."
Also, the bit about the Council's own planning lawyer giving advice, where is the correspondence on his advice?
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "The interesting bit for me is -
"The council as the planning authority were duty bound to consider the application"
Maybe they were, but why did it have to be passed when -
"Subsequent to the approval of Yorkcourt’s Stadium proposal, a separate planning application was submitted by Yorkcourt Properties & Newcold Ltd for a cold food distribution warehouse within the Newmarket site."
Also, the bit about the Council's own planning lawyer giving advice, where is the correspondence on his advice?'"
The fact they've not even attempted to fabricate such evidence says it all. Creagh should be asking to see this. The council have shown their contmpt with regards to its rate payers having rejected the trust's requests to view this phantom legal advice, surely they can't deny a member of parliament.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "The fact they've not even attempted to fabricate such evidence says it all. Creagh should be asking to see this. The council have shown their contmpt with regards to its rate payers having rejected the trust's requests to view this phantom legal advice, surely they can't deny a member of parliament.'"
Don't be silly. Wakefield Council do what they want.
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| As has been alluded to in previous posts, Mary Creagh isn't asking the right question and the Council are leading her a merry dance with their canny answers.
The SoSs ruling was that the UU or S106 or both applied to the land and not a particular planning application. That means any planning application, original, new or whatever should fall under the ruling and any square meterage should count toward the 60,0002m trigger point.
The questions should be
+ Why did the council ignore the clear SoS ruling and allow the Newcold storage building to be built outside of the UU/S106?
+ Why did Peter Box state, on live radio, that the Council had taken legal advice on this issue when subsequent FOI requests proved this to be untrue?
+ Why is the Council stating that this has nothing to do with them when they are the Local Planning Authority and therefore responsible for ensuring the SoSs legal ruling is applied?
+ Why is Wakefield Council failing to ensure the build and delivery of vital Community Sports facilities promised to the residents of Wakefield in return for giving up Brown and Green Belt land to a private developer.
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| I would also be interested to know why (if that correspondence is an accurate record) WMDC, YCP and The Trust had a meeting to discuss the Newcold application - and no objections were made to it being a separate application that could be considered without contributing to the trigger point in the UU? Surely that was the (blindingly obvious) point at which Mackie's scam, and WMDC's complicity in it, became obvious?
As it stands - everything WMDC is saying in response to questions is technically true; but their ability to hide behind that was enabled by the original decision to collude with YCP to circumvent the SoS' ruling - which they apparently got away with, unfettered by objections from other stakeholders. Baffling.
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| Quote: bren2k "I would also be interested to know why (if that correspondence is an accurate record) WMDC, YCP and The Trust had a meeting to discuss the Newcold application - and no objections were made to it being a separate application that could be considered without contributing to the trigger point in the UU? Surely that was the (blindingly obvious) point at which Mackie's scam, and WMDC's complicity in it, became obvious?
As it stands - everything WMDC is saying in response to questions is technically true; but their ability to hide behind that was enabled by the original decision to collude with YCP to circumvent the SoS' ruling - which they apparently got away with, unfettered by objections from other stakeholders. Baffling.'"
It's my understanding, and I'll stand being corrected here, is that the meeting you mention took place after the planning had gone through. The lack of any objection to the Newcold building being outside the S106 was because the Council did the bare minimum in publicising the the planning application. No one from the Trust side picked up on it in the planning portal and even if they noticed the Planning application there was nothing overtly within the planning that revealed the build to be outside the S106 and therefore not contributing toward the stadium trigger point.
Ducks n Drakes by the Council again
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| The question is,Why on earth would the council act in any way which would deprive the citizens of Wakefield the Community Stadium?
Especially as they had supposedly worked towards that goal themselves.
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| Quote: thebeagle "The question is,Why on earth would the council act in any way which would deprive the citizens of Wakefield the Community Stadium?
Especially as they had supposedly worked towards that goal themselves.'"
I suspect the developer has indicated that they would take their business elsewhere unless they can get a deal not involving construction of a stadium. J30 is a good location, but let's not kid ourselves that there aren't other equally good sites out of the district that will appeal to developers. Though there can't be many with that proximity to M1 & M62
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "I suspect the developer has indicated that they would take their business elsewhere unless they can get a deal not involving construction of a stadium. J30 is a good location, but let's not kid ourselves that there aren't other equally good sites out of the district that will appeal to developers. Though there can't be many with that proximity to M1 & M62'"
My thoughs on why are a tad more cynical.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "My thoughs on why are a tad more cynical.'"
Mine too!
I just wish there was some kind of investigative journalist out there who would pick up on it and start doing some digging, but journalism these days seems very much more of a "copy and paste" type of role.
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| Quote: Fordy "I just wish there was some kind of investigative journalist out there'"
What's Roger Cook up to these days?
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| Maybe someone with a real grasp of the whole situation (TRB, IA, SC???) could see about getting these guys interested
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| Quote: thebeagle "The question is,Why on earth would the council act in any way which would deprive the citizens of Wakefield the Community Stadium?
Especially as they had supposedly worked towards that goal themselves.'"
Thats a good question. Its easy to answer for the developer as they dont want to pay for the community facilities that they promised.
Why would the council (ie Mr Box) not want the Newmarket stadium to proceed? I believe that there is no way that he would allow the Newmarket stadium to be built before a new one was provided for Castleford. The Castleford project is struggling as it is, and that is without any question over duplicating facilities for the area should the facilities at Newmarket get built.
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