After last night's disappointing collapse, I think the club should really look at this aspect in some detail.

Our last few years have seen us collapse on many occasions and go on to concede scores in excess of fifty points.

To be fair that has not happened this season, even last night.

However to concede so many points late on after the interception is a worry. Personally, I have long felt that we have lacked a respected captain on the field, capable of holding a team together and stopping a team implosion.

Despite massive improvements over previous years, I think that we lack a mental toughness that is necessary to stop continuous tries being scored by the opposition.

Is it time to look at a sports psychiatrist (hope that is the correct word!) to look at the levels of concentration in order to compete for the full 80 minutes.

Would be interested to hear what others think.

We were much closer last night than the final score suggests and I look forward to us getting back to form against Warrington on Saturday and hopefully seeing Max Jowitt back in the side as I feel he has been very patient this year and Scott Grix is probably ready for a few weeks rest.

Agree here to a point Ricardo.

Though I feel the last couple of weeks we have seen some tired and broken bodies take to the field.

You are right about mental toughness though, I questioned certain elements of this earlier in the year, and I got slated.

We won a few games earlier in the season, despite what appeared like we had switched off at times. I did state that doing this may come back to haunt us at some point.

The feeling I get sometimes is that despite saying it how it is sometines, which is often the best way, they so say honesty is the best policy, that on the forum we cant say anything negative.

Whatever was wrong with constructive criticism

I'd be surprised if we didn't already take this in to consideration already.
It's a major part of modern sport.
But I agree I think our team could benefit.

It's not just about finishing off games. It covers all areas of motivation on and off the field and how you deal with every situation.

I don't think our players lack mental strength. I just think they need to work on certain aspects in certain situations.

I'll flip the coin then - how we not be getting the motivation right when we've won several tight games, including coming from behind, and we're playing massively about our weight in SL?

My assertion is that we are getting far more right than wrong?

What I do believe is that Big Dave is our spiritual leader and that we miss his inspiration at least as much as his perspiration. I feared we might struggle until he returns - when he does return, we will give em hell! In the meantime, we need to find ways to get by without.

I agree with all this, especially the bits in bold.

Should get Big Dave to run on (ok walk on) with the water then

if max the rookie of the yerar had been managed corretly he would have been lookking forward to playing in the world cup

Can't understand as soon as we lose a couple, it's 'mental toughness' and 'no forceful captain'.
On Friday we came from 10-0 down to lead 10-12 at H/T and score just about straight after H/T to go 10-18 in the lead.
We have always had to chase games in the past, it's more about closing the game down and putting pressure on the opposition to make mistakes,something that we are not familiar with but will come more often, if we continue to progress as we are doing.

You used to say that about Korky and you were wrong

This time you're closer to the mark even if you're over egging it a bit.

However we played our best RL last year before Fifita arrived. This to me indicates that even without him we should still have enough.

Give it a rest. Arguing whether he's the best FB at Trinity is one thing. To suggest he's international quality at the moment is embarrassing for everyone.

I think the guy is saying he could have been part of the world cup squad had he been used correctly. We will never know because he has been frozen out this year.

Yes we did collapse but it is the first time really that its happened this season. Also i think one of the reasons it all went a bit pete Tong was after we have let in those back to back Trys to fall behind we were trying too hard to make up for the mistakes which unfortunately lead to more errors. Lets be honest we more than matched a pretty much full strength Hull team at there place for 60 minutes and for me that is not bad going.

Warrington game we lost the unlosable(play the ball david)
could that comeback to haunt us?

Not quite full stength - Kelly, Ellis and Minichello would walk into any SL side. Green missing too so 4 frontliners missing. Very impressed with Wakey this season, still think you can secure 4th place above Salford, that last second brain explosion v Saints could totally de-rail them.

I guess you only have to manage your disappointment if you actually feel disappointed.

Personally, I never imagined that our winning run would go unbroken - so the fact that we've lost a few is exactly within my expectations; it's disappointing at the time to lose any single game - but at this stage in the season, when some clubs are fighting hard to reach safety, and we've got an injury crisis, I don't need to manage it.