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| A) Trueman wasn’t signed “halfway” last season, he was signed towards the end and if you think he was going to contribute for one game then you’re living in cuckoo land.
B) Last year is incomparable to this. Rodwell and Doyle might not be on as much as Trueman individually but they did both sign new long term and improved deals.
C) when Trueman has been on the field he’s certainly helped max and mason look a lot better, and set up some nice tries for TJ.
I honestly don’t recall Gaskell getting this amount of heat and that guy was actually useless to say he was our main playmaker.
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| Willzay:
A) Trueman wasn’t signed “halfway” last season, he was signed towards the end and if you think he was going to contribute for one game then you’re living in cuckoo land.
B) Last year is incomparable to this. Rodwell and Doyle might not be on as much as Trueman individually but they did both sign new long term and improved deals.
C) when Trueman has been on the field he’s certainly helped max and mason look a lot better, and set up some nice tries for TJ.
I honestly don’t recall Gaskell getting this amount of heat and that guy was useless to say he was our main playmaker.
Completely agree. As you say, Trueman came here at the end of August while still recovering from a calf injury, that was done so we could take charge of his rehabilitation. It was even said by DP at the time that he'd be unlikely to play a part last season even if he was fit because he'd rather let the lads that had done that 2024 season complete it. So far we can only go on this season, talking about last season is done just to fill an agenda someone has about him. We're just over halfway through and he's played in 9, we've won 6 and lost 3 . That tells you how much difference he has on our attacking structure, we're just so much better balanced when he's on the field and he lets Lino play his best RL as well. Plus it gives us 3 playmakers on the field at once, so we're far harder to defend against. IMO All we can do is hope he can get back soon, get a bit of luck and see out the rest of the season and our push for the Top 6, obviously missing games isn't ideal but as we've seen this season with so many of our players, crap happens. If for some reason he misses more games, that's a conversation between DP and Trueman towards the end of the season and an honest talk about his future needs to take place at this level, but let's leave it till then, especially as he's currently out because of concussion protocols otherwise he'd be playing and looking to string some games together. At least it's not the same problem that's hampered him this season.
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| Willzay:
A) Trueman wasn’t signed “halfway” last season, he was signed towards the end and if you think he was going to contribute for one game then you’re living in cuckoo land.
B) Last year is incomparable to this. Rodwell and Doyle might not be on as much as Trueman individually but they did both sign new long term and improved deals.
C) when Trueman has been on the field he’s certainly helped max and mason look a lot better, and set up some nice tries for TJ.
I honestly don’t recall Gaskell getting this amount of heat and that guy was actually useless to say he was our main playmaker.
Agree about Gaskell he was way past is best and we still had fans defending him , This is the problem with Trueman was very good when he was 18 at Cas, but bad injuries have caught up with him ,and he is not the player he was.If he was that good why did Hull let him go with one year of is contract left .Hull fans were saying they were glad to see the back of him, always out injured and one good game in every 10 Trueman played 11 games in is last season at Hull .When you think about some of the halves we have had at Wakefield over the years Miller ,Roony Jeffries Brough he is no were near there class, and would say that Dagger who played at 6 when we got relegated was better .The reason why Lino looks better when Trueman plays is that Lino can just organise his side of the field and not run all over the field like he had to do in the second half against HKR If Russell plays on Saturday we will have a half who can do the basics right, and take pressure of Lino and have Max at fullback were he should be
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| You are kidding. Trueman when fit is England class. Only Brough was at that level and he had other issues that cost him. Rooney and Jeffries were both great players and too of my favourites but Trueman has skills they do not have.
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| Trueman is a class player. I really hope for himself and the team he can actually get a consecutive run of games as he is a player to genuinely build a team round. I’ve not seen a 6 as good as him in my time of watching Trinity, he is an absolute class act.
He literally amplifies the spine around him to play better. With him off the pitch against Kr, we never looked like scoring.
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| alegend:Willzay:
A) Trueman wasn’t signed “halfway” last season, he was signed towards the end and if you think he was going to contribute for one game then you’re living in cuckoo land.
B) Last year is incomparable to this. Rodwell and Doyle might not be on as much as Trueman individually but they did both sign new long term and improved deals.
C) when Trueman has been on the field he’s certainly helped max and mason look a lot better, and set up some nice tries for TJ.
I honestly don’t recall Gaskell getting this amount of heat and that guy was actually useless to say he was our main playmaker.
Agree about Gaskell he was way past is best and we still had fans defending him , This is the problem with Trueman was very good when he was 18 at Cas, but bad injuries have caught up with him ,and he is not the player he was.If he was that good why did Hull let him go with one year of is contract left .Hull fans were saying they were glad to see the back of him, always out injured and one good game in every 10 Trueman played 11 games in is last season at Hull .When you think about some of the halves we have had at Wakefield over the years Miller ,Roony Jeffries Brough he is no were near there class, and would say that Dagger who played at 6 when we got relegated was better .The reason why Lino looks better when Trueman plays is that Lino can just organise his side of the field and not run all over the field like he had to do in the second half against HKR If Russell plays on Saturday we will have a half who can do the basics right, and take pressure of Lino and have Max at fullback were he should be Trueman is better than three of those you mention. You can clearly see the difference he brings to the team when he plays, and your fav Lino plays much better when he's has Trueman in the halves with him. Hull let him go because of his injury record, not because of his ability, which to me isn't in doubt. His robustness is, some people just seem to suffer more than others in what is a brutal game. His susceptibility to injury is a concern, and something the club will no doubt be aware of.
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| Agree about Truman. Hes the best 6 we have had in a very long time. Fans need to get off his back and be sensible.
If he had put some more games together I have no doubt he’d be in the ashes squad.
Looking forward to seeing him continue his good form after the concussion. Hopefully only misses a week.
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| Khlav Kalash:alegend:Willzay:
A) Trueman wasn’t signed “halfway” last season, he was signed towards the end and if you think he was going to contribute for one game then you’re living in cuckoo land.
B) Last year is incomparable to this. Rodwell and Doyle might not be on as much as Trueman individually but they did both sign new long term and improved deals.
C) when Trueman has been on the field he’s certainly helped max and mason look a lot better, and set up some nice tries for TJ.
I honestly don’t recall Gaskell getting this amount of heat and that guy was actually useless to say he was our main playmaker.
Agree about Gaskell he was way past is best and we still had fans defending him , This is the problem with Trueman was very good when he was 18 at Cas, but bad injuries have caught up with him ,and he is not the player he was.If he was that good why did Hull let him go with one year of is contract left .Hull fans were saying they were glad to see the back of him, always out injured and one good game in every 10 Trueman played 11 games in is last season at Hull .When you think about some of the halves we have had at Wakefield over the years Miller ,Roony Jeffries Brough he is no were near there class, and would say that Dagger who played at 6 when we got relegated was better .The reason why Lino looks better when Trueman plays is that Lino can just organise his side of the field and not run all over the field like he had to do in the second half against HKR If Russell plays on Saturday we will have a half who can do the basics right, and take pressure of Lino and have Max at fullback were he should be Trueman is better than three of those you mention. You can clearly see the difference he brings to the team when he plays, and your fav Lino plays much better when he's has Trueman in the halves with him. Hull let him go because of his injury record, not because of his ability, which to me isn't in doubt. His robustness is, some people just seem to suffer more than others in what is a brutal game. His susceptibility to injury is a concern, and something the club will no doubt be aware of. Part of his susceptibility to injury is that he is tough in defense and gets stuck in. I'd rather have that than someone who doesn't risk injury and just waves them through.The injury he has is an impact injury that has nothing to do with him. Tom had a long time out with concussion. Needs managing and there are rules that force us to do so.
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| I always enjoy your ability to spark a debate, alegend, but claiming Will Dagger is a better player than Jake Trueman has got to be your best one yet. You're obviously frustrated about Trueman's lack of game time - we all are - but it's frustrating precisely because he's so good.
And I have to ask, as you seem to know, how much is Trueman on? And how much is Rodwell on?
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| Butcher:
I always enjoy your ability to spark a debate, alegend, but claiming Will Dagger is a better player than Jake Trueman has got to be your best one yet. You're obviously frustrated about Trueman's lack of game time - we all are - but it's frustrating precisely because he's so good.
And I have to ask, as you seem to know, how much is Trueman on? And how much is Rodwell on?
Do not go out to get shot down all the time Just put down what I think As said.Truman was a very good player when he was young ,but because of injuries he is not the player he was and do not think he is worth the money he is on To me a marquee player is on top money and should show why, like the other two marquee player's we have got .Know player's get injured and I can accept this .But to bring in a marque player this season with the injury record he had was a bad call by the club ,when you think how much the same people have got right.A post earlier said ,I must live in cuckoo land because I said we signed Trueman on a 3 and a half year contract from Hull that i know to be true ,then we loaned him back .Fans at the time said it was a great bit of business but I thought we should have stayed well clear and at presents I am right
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| I don't think you are right about Trueman though.
At the time of signing there was no one available at his talent level for a start. We signed Russell to go with him with Lino being inconsistent.
For me it was a risk yes but a risk worth taking. Time will tell though as you say.
I don't think we'd have been as bothered if Russell had been fit.
Wigan aren't looking to release French when he has a long injury. They are helping him in rehab and celebrating the young kid taking his place.
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