Exactly. Both are valid motives. Some will buy when the fixtures come out (what's the point in buying a season ticket if you know you can't make Friday games?), some at Christmas (as gifts and with bonuses). You're right, some might just watch on TV this year, but I doubt that's a huge motivator - watching a game and going to the rugby are two very different things.

Without scrolling back through socials for I think we had sold more season tickets for 2024 within 10 days, but it doesn't take an analyst to know those numbers were inflated by adults just tagging on a free junior season ticket or two on the off chance the kids might want to come to the odd game. And that was a good move last year - Ellis knew we'd have space in the ground, we'd be a winning team so new fans could get the buzz ahead of this season.

But reading through the thread, the 5,700 'sold' last year isn't a great metric to compare by - the 3,850 adults is. Of the 3,000+ sold so far for 2025, we don't know how many are adults, but it's logical to assume the highest percentage would be much more than 70% (as it was last year), because the kids aren't free anymore.

Just to add my 2p, I haven't renewed because I found having a seat in the East Stand a bit of a constraint. When I go with my dad I wanted to sit in there and analyse every tackle, when I go with my mates I want to be in the North Stand jumping about, and when it's just me and the toddler we'll probably stand on the West. I'll probably still spend £300 on tickets.

Due to nature of the game you can't have enough in your squad.
There will be a couple recovering from winter operations always is.
Then there will be a couple injured in the friendlies , hope not but generally all teams do .So while squad looks good on paper now , it probably be diluted a bit come February

Luckily we have a squad capable of coping with that scenario.

I agree.
And also the salary cap means you can't just have an unlimited squad.

Another happy problem with a large but quality squad is player want gametime. Some pretty good players will be sat in stands next year and the more players you sign make it even more so, it's a balance. Ste Mills said we are pretty much done, but also said any team that say they are completely done is lying! Personally I think player can drop out of favour pretty quick so if for example if Kruise Leeming doesn't like fact he isn't the chosen starter for Wigan and we have cap money we can swoop in!

I'm happy with ticket sales. Last seasons numbers included a lot of free junior tickets, this year they are having to buy them.