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Quote: Trojan Horse "That 0.35 purely needs to be compensated for in 2025 finishing position. I believe if we finish 9th or above we will have similar to this years so should be grade A. If we fish bottom 2/3 though it may be a high B. You may lose some performance points but you can make them up in 2025.

If we perform as Ellis expects then A should be maintained. The plan is to be around the edge of playoffs next season and possibly get in it.

Also if we improve in other areas which it seems Ellis is pushing for then we could be higher.

The other side is that I can’t see Hudds/Salford/York/Toulouse/Bulls amassing enough points to force a high B just shy of 15 out.

Salford and Hudds scores will be quite stagnant I’d expect.

Not that we should or will rest on our laurels.

Best way to describe it is that a Grade A guarantees you the following year superleague rugby. As long as it is retained that is the case. If you’re not a grade A you must be in the top 12 to retain SL status following year as you say.

We just have to do the business on the field next season and try grow other parts of the business.

Most importantly as fans we need to buy season tickets and keep interacting social media. I went through the clubs Facebook page and Twitter recently and liked a few hundred posts from the past months…. Laborious yes but I feel like I did my part.'"



Hi TJ , First post on here but I come in peace .

First of all congratulations on reaching a Grade A , a fantastic turnaround for you in 2024.

Just wanted to reply regarding how performance score works . Finishing 9th won't improve your overall 12th (3 year average) position as it all works relative to other clubs .

Cas finished 11th and 10th in their last 2 seasons , so a total finishing position of 21 going into 2025

Wakey have finished 12th and 13th so a total finishing position of 25 with 2025 to add on


This means that Wakey would have to finish 4 places above Cas in 2025 (I think Hull are the same score as Cas as well) to tie in 3 year average finishing position . Finishing 5 places above Cas in 2025 will put you above us in the 3 year average .

Looking forward to seeing you next season in SL

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Quote: Trojan Horse "Boo hoo. Some clubs like fans can’t accept change from a promotion and relegation system. The sport should stop pandering to them.'"


How quickly we forget about our own history. We now have an owner with genuine financial resources who was able to secure our return to SL. I don’t want to think where we would be without him and it might have been us wanting the return of promotion and relegation.
The sport never pandered to any group of teams outside SL. I actually believe the Championship will be an exciting league but without much coverage.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "How quickly we forget about our own history. We now have an owner with genuine financial resources who was able to secure our return to SL. I don’t want to think where we would be without him and it might have been us wanting the return of promotion and relegation.
The sport never pandered to any group of teams outside SL. I actually believe the Championship will be an exciting league but without much coverage.'"


We don’t forget about our own history. Whether it be promotion and relegation or IMG I have no doubt that Ellis would have made the required investment. That doesn’t have anything to do with changing and modifying the IMG structure after year 1 implementation though.

If we had failed to make the 12 I would still not want to see any large changes. You shouldn’t change the criteria when clubs are and have been planning to meet the current criteria. Let’s also not forget that recruitment has been completed by most clubs now too so if you change the on field importance of being promoted as a B regardless then clubs who have invested in other parts of the criteria have missed the boat.

If it absolutely has to be reviewed then you do so now for planning and discussion for implantation for 2026 not 2025 comp where pre season is starting imminently.

Absolutely boggles my mind how things don’t get properly structured and planned. Though I suspect this is more just airing out some concerns of the few and paying some lip service perhaps for future consideration and discussion.

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I think the criteria is OK to modify as you learn and progress but you shouldn't be changing fundamental principles after a year.

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Important to remember nothing’s changing though, and no one’s dicking about. It’s just Batley’s board saying they’ll put a motion forward to have some sort of P&R - their only hope of playing in the top tier. I don’t blame them as such.

What’s sadder is the coverage, which is designed to get people to click and groan and repost. Not blaming that on Matt Shaw as such, it’s just the state of play now.

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Like that headline is about as untrue as you can stretch it while still being true

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