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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"So neither of you want to back your claims up about the rent then? Even though "You know"
And if your 'opinions' are defamatory towards someone, you are 1) going to be challenged to say why and 2) likely to be stopped from posting them on here'"
Why are you so hung up on this subject ? Why is to so important to you that you deviate away from the things you have made up to keep coming back to this point.
My opinions on here, how have they been defamatory? I have quoted directly what he said, not filled in any blanks, not assumed or made things up, unlike you - pot calling kettle black eh?
Also, whilst talking about defamatory, I have been called a 'physcopath', associated with and other posters called 'Normanton mafia bully boys', you didn't jump up and down crying saying any of that was defamatory did you? You yourself even made up, I had a go at Lewis Murphys girlfriend, when I said show me, yet again, you crawled back under your stone as you couldn't back it up, as it was another bare faced pop tart lie.
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| Quote Mark Voakes="Mark Voakes"So your guessing and filling in the blanks of what MC may or may not have said to the journalist. Point proved.
When did he say he changed his mind, or are you admitting that was you?
It wasnt my accusation, it was what I got told, it may turn out to be true. Why are you so hung up on this? If they havent even discussed the £1.2m loans as you keep harping on about , then the takeover is miles away - however I think we all know the loans have been discussed. As I put in one of my previous posts, its certainly a possibility that a Stadium Management company could own / run the stadium, and rents this to the club, the football club etc, its a real common set up in Stadia management / ownership.'"
I said why can't he change his mind. I don't know the guy.
And you've changed from 'heard from a reliable source' to
"May be true" "its possible"
I'm calling you out as making things up just because you don't like Carter. You say yourself Minards hasn't said anything but seem to now lump them together.
Enough people are challenging you on Facebook now thank goodness.
You have shown absolutely no basis for any of your claims, except 'it was what I got told'. Unless you can quote someone who actually knows, it could have been a discussion between you and Mopsey for all we know.
And 'I am hung up on it' because you are saying things that are damaging to my club and the directors of the club and make things look worse than they are.
We should be celebrating the possibility of a takeover but we are all having to wade through all the misinformation which causes doubt when there isn't anything to discuss yet.
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| Actually, I sincerely apologise Mark Voakes. It wasn't you that comment on the Facebook thread about Murphy to his girlfriend. I just checked.
I was absolutely wrong saying that.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Actually, I sincerely apologise Mark Voakes. It wasn't you that comment on the Facebook thread about Murphy to his girlfriend. I just checked.
I was absolutely wrong saying that.'"
Apology accepted, On this occasion I wont pursue defamation of character on this matter.
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| Quote Mark Voakes="Mark Voakes"Apology accepted, On this occasion I wont pursue defamation of character on this matter.'"
I have nothing to sue for unfortunately.
I'll sell you my non voting shares in Trinity for a pound though.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I said why can't he change his mind. I don't know the guy.
And you've changed from 'heard from a reliable source' to
"May be true" "its possible"
I'm calling you out as making things up just because you don't like Carter. You say yourself Minards hasn't said anything but seem to now lump them together.
Enough people are challenging you on Facebook now thank goodness.
You have shown absolutely no basis for any of your claims, except 'it was what I got told'. Unless you can quote someone who actually knows, it could have been a discussion between you and Mopsey for all we know.
And 'I am hung up on it' because you are saying things that are damaging to my club and the directors of the club and make things look worse than they are.
We should be celebrating the possibility of a takeover but we are all having to wade through all the misinformation which causes doubt when there isn't anything to discuss yet.'"
I did hear from a reliable source, as I have heard plenty of things that happen to come true, the pitch inspections which I got slagged off over 'making up', bang turned out true, same with Max and Linos new deals.
As I have said, a Stadium Management company is very common, and it could have been suggested that one is formed and the asset remains with that company and lease this back to the club and football club. After all, MC said that thing will generate £500K, so he may want to retain such a valuable business asset. Nothing has come out in the press to say that this idea / suggestion of the stadium been rented to the club is either true or untrue YET. I
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I have nothing to sue for unfortunately.
I'll sell you my non voting shares in Trinity for a pound though.'"
Whether you do or you dont, I really couldnt care less, I am a big boy and can deal with your lies. I wont be losing any sleep over what you, any other posters or anyone on FB says or thinks about me. I just had to prove a point, that you have been harping on about defamation, and you blatantly made something up about me, Pot calling kettle.
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| The thing I can not get my head around is, who is the source of this information, there can't be many people involved in these discussions MC, JM, ME and maybe legal people, and I don't see any of them revealing anything financial at this stage.
One other thing does Ted Richardson attend games regularly or is it just coincidence I have seen both him and EricTimmins recently at Belle Vie
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| Quote lifelongfan="lifelongfan"The thing I can not get my head around is, who is the source of this information, there can't be many people involved in these discussions MC, JM, ME and maybe legal people, and I don't see any of them revealing anything financial at this stage.
One other thing does Ted Richardson attend games regularly or is it just coincidence I have seen both him and EricTimmins recently at Belle Vie'"
Ted is a regular at games these days, was also at one of the recent forums.
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| Quote altofts wildcat="altofts wildcat"Ted is a regular at games these days, was also at one of the recent forums.'"
Thanks for that, my suspicions mind working overtime.
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| Quote lifelongfan="lifelongfan"The thing I can not get my head around is, who is the source of this information, there can't be many people involved in these discussions MC, JM, ME and maybe legal people, and I don't see any of them revealing anything financial at this stage.
One other thing does Ted Richardson attend games regularly or is it just coincidence I have seen both him and EricTimmins recently at Belle Vie'"
We have 4 shareholders, who will all have friends and family who they trust, they may also have employees who they trust. Ellis may also take the same number of advisor / fellow board members / even members of a potential consortium with him to any talks - they too all have friends family etc who they believe they can trust. All of a sudden 30 or so people know, or have been told elements of the talks. Its just a big game of chinese whispers then.
Non disclosure agreements could be in place, but then again MC has just done a interview about the potential takeover, so maybe they arent.
Ted attend games regularly, he may have done some wrong things when running the club, but he is actually a proper lifelong Wakefield Fan, and not a Hull FC follower.
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