Ok Wigan have a great squad to choose from , but Matty has a great person looking over proceedings at the club ,and will provide a wealth of experience when required .Our set up is living proof that if you cut corners and don’t have that experience and right people in place in the right positions within the management structures of a club ,your on a hiding to nowhere ,as we see unfolding before our very eyes .Our choices of players and contracts has been at best woefully inadequate and whilst MA might have been great with the junior set ups , it’s a whole different ball game with adults and their management needs . Fingers crossed going forwards we can get the right people in the right places behind the scenes and see those benefits on the field in the coming seasons .

Lack of ambition is now having to be accepted by the fans.
Being a 5/6th placed Championship club doesn't sound all that appealing.

When we are relegated, our income will be further decimated and even with this seasons squad, that would be our likely place in the Championship.

So be it, we don't have the revenue to be much more than bottom dwellers and its been that way for most of the 24 years we've been in SL.

We don’t have the revenue according to the current incumbents but they have cried wolf on this far too many times. We had a chance a few seasons ago but unfortunately friendship got in the way and maybe the fact that to stay where we were was just too daunting financially and much better to return to the more frugal days for which accountants are more comfortable. This led to revenue falling as results and support declined meaning we entered the vicious circle of trimming costs until we reach where we are today.
I admit they have done a good job of making supporters believe the Championship is just a stepping stone back to SL however experience suggests it isn’t or has I have said before more clubs would want to do it. The only plus I see is that there will be more available parking around the ground.

HKR were relegated in 2016 (?) and bounced straight back up; Leigh the same after the drop in 2021.

Fev are unlikely to be in The Champ next season and Toulouse are a spent force at that level. You are yet to be relegated but, should it happen, it could lead to an unusually enjoyable 2024 even though "ups-and-downs" will by then be determined by grading criteria.

My opinions are independent of what Carter et al say. We've struggled way before he arrived, the odd good season was blown the following with an unpaid tax bill or other clubs taking the better players.

This isn't a recent thing.