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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"………We all knew how difficult this season would be but how important it was to survive in SL, unfortunately those in charge decided it was not of overriding importance to them. The people in charge are transient but we have to live with what they leave behind. We are just an embarrassment this season which recently culminated in the RFL asking Sky not to cover our home game.'"
You’re doing it again - just repeating the same old thing. Try telling us something we don’t know. And then tell us, if you were in charge of the club, what you would have done differently and, most important, how you would have financed it whilst giving us at least a chance of retaining SL status.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"I should do because I am still to receive a reply explaining how we cover the financial discrepancy.'"
Maybe you are asking the wrong people but if you want my answer
If we go down we will be paying championship wages so the costs are less. And the income from the stadium will be an increase of what we have this season.
And obviously they have your and my match day cost as we'll support them no matter what division they are in.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"Scarlet - in your opinion.my opinion vastly differs.
I believe we are already down to our core base supporters after years of poor performances. If we were to be relegated I believe we would see at the very least the same attendances if not a small increase. People would come to see a team winning 9/10 at the top of the championship.
The sponsorship I would guess is one of the lowest in the superleague already especially considering that we have little tv exposure and success for a sustained period. I’d expect the drop tonne minimal.
Not all but some of the loss should be offset by the new stand. There will be 7 day revenue, there will be increased sponsor opportunities.
There is the money we will likely receive from our tenants Wakefield AFC.
In my opinion we could easily operate a ‘mostly’ full time team to challenge the top of championship.
It wouldn’t be the end of the club at all.
All this is subject to mine and your opinions though and it’s the club who will know what they can forcast and adjust on relegation should it happen.
You’re also fabricating and twisting media articles to suit your doom and gloom. You say the rfl asked them not to show our game on sky because we are an embarrassment this season (I assume you mean performances). But all the articles clearly state it’s precautionary due to the risk the game could be off (albeit small).'"
If you think attendances won’t drop in the championship you are deluding yourself i’m afraid. There is always a drop off after relegation in the same way there us an uplift when promoted. It’s the way of the world, Swinton, Whitehaven & Newcastle don’t have the same appeal sadly whether we are winning them or not. Add in the away support is nothing like as large in the championship and that 4000+ average will likely be comfortably under 3000. Also add in you can’t charge super league ticket prices for championship rugby and we lose the subsequent food & drink sales. Thats quite an income drop. And yes of course sponsorship levels will drop. Our current sponsorship is pretty decent, one of the first thing Carter ever did was put the price if that up and it has risen over the years. Companies sponsor for exposure and as it stands there is no TV deal in place for the championship either next year. Less eyeballs = less value = less income. Trust me the cost is much less in the championship, i know as i’ve been involved in sponsoring a team in both divisions. We will gain pitch rental fees and i am led to believe should we be able to sort the pitch issue others may well be interested to come on board which will help. But with that will come extra costs through maintenance which we will be liable for and the football authorities are very strict on this. Pitch rental alone won’t be the huge cash cow people might think but it will help pay some bills. Likewise the stadium facilities. They will in time provide valuable income but it won’t happen overnight, these things take time and to build up the business there needs to be a concerted effort to push them which will involve some significant promotion. The build it and they will come tactic alone won’t work, it will take a full long term business plan. Will the capital expenditure be there for this without super league income? There have to be some doubts. And without an external investor i doubt we’d be anywhere near being able to operate a full time squad next season without that £1.5m tv money. And if we do it would have to be the kids and that ain’t going to get us to the top of championship. And with the IMG grading coming in it would be a bad time to be on the outside looking in.
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| Quote bellycouldtackle="bellycouldtackle"Our squad is the lowest quality squad ever assembled in SL . Only four SL quality players in the squad , Jowitt , Murphy, Lino and Tanganoa . Jowitt and Murphy are out rest of season, Tanganoa missed pre season , injured on return suggesting he was not ready and missing for long period . Lino is not the messiah and not able to win games on his own . The squad would struggle to make top 4 in Championship , this Sunday's team would finish bottom four in Championship. The building of our squad for the 2023 season is criminal . Everyone knew that of all seasons don’t get relegated this year , Leigh , Salford , Hull KR , Cas all got the memo.'"
Is Max out for the season too ???
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| Quote FIL="FIL"Is Max out for the season too ???'"
I don't think so. It was about 6 weeks.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have asked how can we survive if relegated because the revenue from the ground will not cover the loss of Sky money, reduced attendances, less sponsorship and the cost to service the ground loan. It is not much of a legacy to leave a club possibly facing extinction or years of ignominy in the lower divisions.
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Who exactly have you asked?
Face to face or phone?
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have asked how can we survive if relegated because the revenue from the ground will not cover the loss of Sky money, reduced attendances, less sponsorship and the cost to service the ground loan. It is not much of a legacy to leave a club possibly facing extinction or years of ignominy in the lower divisions.
We all knew how difficult this season would be but how important it was to survive in SL, unfortunately those in charge decided it was not of overriding importance to them. The people in charge are transient but we have to live with what they leave behind. We are just an embarrassment this season which recently culminated in the RFL asking Sky not to cover our home game.'"
What a ridiculous question even for you. How do you think all the other none SL clubs survive?
It’s pretty obvious isn’t it!
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| Quote vastman="vastman"What a ridiculous question even for you. How do you think all the other none SL clubs survive?
It’s pretty obvious isn’t it!'"
How many clubs have to service a loan of over three million pounds.
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Who exactly have you asked?
Face to face or phone?'"
I asked the question several times on the forum which you would know if you had looked particularly for those who believe relegation is an acceptable result with little impact.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"I asked the question several times on the forum which you would know if you had looked particularly for those who believe relegation is an acceptable result with little impact.'"
So as many people have replied, this forum isn't where the people with your answers live, though some have tried to explain to you.
I haven't seen one person say relegation is acceptable. Carter and now JM have explained, in the press why the stadium was the priority.
I'm not sure what other answer you are looking for.
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