After reading a column in the league express by Martyn Sadler suggesting that Lewis Murphy is tipped to join st helens,
Due to the fact he has turned down an upgrade to his contract. How do we expect to compete in super league when letting
our better players move on, surely Mr Minnards & Co should at all costs try to keep hold of Lewis (stop penny pinching).

Who accepts the first offer anyway? Give the process time.

Theres 5 months before the season deadline for players to be spoken to by other clubs. At the end of the day its up to Murphy what he sees as acceptable and the best for his future no matter what the club offer him.

Apparently Lewis Dodd is out of contract.
I'd happily do a swap if Murph wants to go.

Yes I know. I'll get my coat.

Quote: PopTart " Quote: PopTart "Apparently Lewis Dodd is out of contract. I'd happily do a swap if Murph wants to go. https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2022/06/14/s ... -contract/ Saints have off contract this year; Matty Foster, Konrad Hurrell, Sione Mata'utia, James Roby, Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Dan Norman, Sam Royle, Lewis Baxter, James Bell, Daniel Hill, Will Hopoate, Curtis Sironen, Jake Wingfield, Taylor Pemberton, Jumah Sambou, Mckenzie Buckley. There’s also Ritson whose loan contract expires. Of these, Saints have an option on Sironen and Hopoate (though I, along with the majority of the fan base are hoping the latter doesn’t get exercised, or rather he has to do a lot this year to make it even a consideration). You then have Roby and LMS whom are both expected to retire., and I doubt Saints would send them away for their final year (though we did do it with Amor, so it’s possible LMS could be moved on, especially as he faces a lot of competition for his spot, with George Delaney being called up to England Knights before establishing himself in our first team, and Norman being in the final year of his contract, and him graduating the same education Bentley and Batchelor went through). Hurrell, Mata’utia and Bell round out the senior players in the list, and their decisions will dictate how much recruitment we need to do vs how much we can focus on nice to haves in our squad. Wingfield and Norman are both excellent backup props for us, but as mentioned above Delaney is pushing his way through the ranks and both need to really lay claim to a starting spot (though Wingfield could also replace Bell as a back up lock). Baxter is also a young prop, but seems much further away from being picked than the others. That leaves the kids. Royle is an excellent leader, having captained the club at every age group when he captained the first team over Easter vs Castleford last year. Ended the year on loan to HKR and seemed to impress but not sure what his path to being a genuine first team option is, as he lacks a bit of size and presence for a forward. Pemberton is apparently heir apparent alongside Lussick to replace Roby but that is a huge jump for him to have to make. Buckley, Sambou and Hill all played games for us last year and Buckley and Sambou could possibly feature more regularly next year too (Bruines joining us most likely blocks Hill from game time). As I said, Saints were happy to negotiate, and I could have seen something like Norman + Royle going in exchange for Murphy, but there was no negotiation to be had.

Quote: PopTart " Quote: PopTart "Apparently Lewis Dodd is out of contract. I'd happily do a swap if Murph wants to go. https://www.saintsrlfc.com/2022/06/14/s ... -contract/ Saints have off contract this year; Matty Foster, Konrad Hurrell, Sione Mata'utia, James Roby, Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Dan Norman, Sam Royle, Lewis Baxter, James Bell, Daniel Hill, Will Hopoate, Curtis Sironen, Jake Wingfield, Taylor Pemberton, Jumah Sambou, Mckenzie Buckley. There’s also Ritson whose loan contract expires. Of these, Saints have an option on Sironen and Hopoate (though I, along with the majority of the fan base are hoping the latter doesn’t get exercised, or rather he has to do a lot this year to make it even a consideration). You then have Roby and LMS whom are both expected to retire., and I doubt Saints would send them away for their final year (though we did do it with Amor, so it’s possible LMS could be moved on, especially as he faces a lot of competition for his spot, with George Delaney being called up to England Knights before establishing himself in our first team, and Norman being in the final year of his contract, and him graduating the same education Bentley and Batchelor went through). Hurrell, Mata’utia and Bell round out the senior players in the list, and their decisions will dictate how much recruitment we need to do vs how much we can focus on nice to haves in our squad. Wingfield and Norman are both excellent backup props for us, but as mentioned above Delaney is pushing his way through the ranks and both need to really lay claim to a starting spot (though Wingfield could also replace Bell as a back up lock). Baxter is also a young prop, but seems much further away from being picked than the others. That leaves the kids. Royle is an excellent leader, having captained the club at every age group when he captained the first team over Easter vs Castleford last year. Ended the year on loan to HKR and seemed to impress but not sure what his path to being a genuine first team option is, as he lacks a bit of size and presence for a forward. Pemberton is apparently heir apparent alongside Lussick to replace Roby but that is a huge jump for him to have to make. Buckley, Sambou and Hill all played games for us last year and Buckley and Sambou could possibly feature more regularly next year too (Bruines joining us most likely blocks Hill from game time). As I said, Saints were happy to negotiate, and I could have seen something like Norman + Royle going in exchange for Murphy, but there was no negotiation to be had.

With some players it's not all about money. The likes of Saints and Wigan offer a player a good chance of winning cups/titles. Sometimes this is as much, if not more of a draw.