I didn’t until he played for us. TBF I didn’t rate him as highly as some did but was pleasantly surprised. What I do know is he was a good clubman and popular with his teammates. You never can tell.

But there is no evidence, or even suggestion that is the case, so to suggest it now, is starting a rumour.

I don't really understand why we are even discussing it. I clearly tried to be too subtle but you can't suggest stuff like that on here.

But it`s not a rumour is it? He wasn`t sacked for just vaping, he broke NRL rules by having his phone with him during a match, whatever he was or wasn`t doing on his phone is irrelevant as he`s breached it just having it on him in the first place.

Ok I take your points both of you.

He also had previous at the Titans for taking cocaine on a night out for which he was fined by the club. I imagine it was the culmination of the offences that lead to his sacking.

It was ‘alleged’ regarding the coke according to all the reports I’ve read. Frankly I’m pretty sure he did hence he accepted the fine.

But let’s be straight about this, he has no criminal record of any kind. A fine from any sporting organisation, no matter how grand they think they are, does not constitute a legal admission to law breaking,

It’s a clean sheet in legal terms as he has never been found guilty of anything in a Court. So before flinging to much mud about beware. We all fancy ourselves as RL experts, some more than others but the law is a different beast.

So in the same way as people serve their time he’s paid his fine. None of this has sod all to do with whether we are getting a good player or not.