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| Quote 1315trinity="1315trinity"What can be said about Willie is that our style of play has not changed one bit since he arrived.
He had those wins at the start of his stint as coach (as most new coaches probably do) and a few here and there this season BUT it remains that we are clueless in attack and our points conceded over the last three games speaks volumes for our defence. So, he's not coaching attacking ideas into the team, because they don't display any. In fact they are the worst rugby playing team in SL and they play the type of rugby I don't like to watch. Our defence is dreadful.
So, having coached to team to such a high standard let's get controversial with team selection. Croft should not have played - I like a lot more saw enough in Batchelor at centre to know he would have tightened that side up. Bowes should have played, that's not knocking Crowther - he's not a specialist hooker, Bowes is.
That's my rant over but that's how I see things. Sorry Willie -great player-but lacking as a coach so far!'"
It's hard to argue with any of that tbh. I would add that Bowden should have got the nod over Butler too , unless he was injured.
Otherwise why have we signed him ?
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| If they read the forum they would have removed Chester at least two seasons ago thereby avoiding the waste of money on his signings for example. The problem is if they do they pay no attention and any meetings they have online are subject to pre submitted and audited questions, nothing off the cuff.
If you can come up with any other way the club encourages discussion with supporters please let the forum know. I would also add that I may have missed it but have either the Chairman or CEO made any apologies to those supporters spending money and witnessing performances like that against Salford.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"If they read the forum they would have removed Chester at least two seasons ago thereby avoiding the waste of money on his signings for example. The problem is if they do they pay no attention and any meetings they have online are subject to pre submitted and audited questions, nothing off the cuff.
If you can come up with any other way the club encourages discussion with supporters please let the forum know. I would also add that I may have missed it but have either the Chairman or CEO made any apologies to those supporters spending money and witnessing performances like that against Salford.'"
You've got to be kidding. There is hardly any agreement on this forum of what to do. Only that they don't like it. How are they to work that out?
But I guess what you are saying is you are expecting them to come and talk to you.
Personally, I'd rather they go to other professionals for advice.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"You've got to be kidding. There is hardly any agreement on this forum of what to do. Only that they don't like it. How are they to work that out?
But I guess what you are saying is you are expecting them to come and talk to you.
Personally, I'd rather they go to other professionals for advice.'"
Well I don’t know the professionals they are talking to but it’s not working too well. Why should they want to talk to me, they don’t want to talk to any supporters even those like you.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well I don’t know the professionals they are talking to but it’s not working too well. Why should they want to talk to me, they don’t want to talk to any supporters even those like you.'"
You don't know that at all.
All you know is they are not coming to you. Which amazing as it sounds I'm OK with.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"You don't know that at all.
All you know is they are not coming to you. Which amazing as it sounds I'm OK with.'"
The performances say they are not talking to the correct professionals but I doubt they are actually seeking help and I am fine with them not coming to me because if we are relegated it is their relegation no one else.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"The performances say they are not talking to the correct professionals but I doubt they are actually seeking help and I am fine with them not coming to me because if we are relegated it is their relegation no one else.'"
So what's your problem? A couple of posts ago you were moaning because they didn't take advice from this forum?
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| To say Poching can’t coach is i feel wrong. Maybe though there’s an argument that it’s a head coach role that isn’t for him. I think he knows his stuff but he’s probably just too nice and maybe lacks the ability to be ruthless and make the tough decisions on the run that good head coaches and managers need to do. He does seem a little confused with some of his selections as well right now, there’s a worry that there is a lack of clarity in his decision making going on. But many good judges have given him coaching jobs, he must be doing something right somewhere.
I do think Willie probably gets a little more credit in the bank than some might due to a few factors. Firstly he took over an under-performing but also unbalanced squad from the last coach who had already blown a large amount of this years budget on garbage like Gaskell & Lineham. He also is well thought of by all due to his time as a player with the club, something that always helps. He has just signed a couple of his own players that we have yet to see in action. If we are backing him with signings then i imagine he is going to get chance to show what he can do with them in the side. His signings hit rate has been ok, a couple of hits and a couple of misses, that happens. And actually given everything he currently has a respectable career win rate of about 41% i think. 11 wins in 27 games i believe, thats probably about 10th over a season which is about the whereabouts of the quality of this squad. Would anybody else who is available (please don’t say Tony Smith, not going to happen) do any better with this lot? It’s unlikely.
In my personal opinion he deserves a little longer to prove himself. His next 3 are a very winnable game against Hull KR, a free hit against Saints and a derby game versus Cas. That takes us until the end of the month and around the same amount of games remaining as when Chester got the push last year and when Kear came in in 2006. If there’s no signs of improvement by then maybe it will be time. But for now he retains my support.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"Why should they want to talk to me, they don’t want to talk to any supporters even those like you.'"
That's not true, MC always makes time to talk to supporters. He doesn't hide away at matches.
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| Johnstone, lynne, Tupou , That’s some serious fire power that as been unavailable for big parts of the season . Bring in Gaskell n lineham in the off season supposedly to bolster the squad and it doesn’t take a genius to realise why we are where we are . Hindsight is a wonderful think but I’d like to think that if fifita and butler had kept on the field yesterday, and Lino hadn’t failed a fitness test we wouldn’t be having all this vitriol spouted all over social media .
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| Quote Kettykat="Kettykat"Johnstone, lynne, Tupou , That’s some serious fire power that as been unavailable for big parts of the season . Bring in Gaskell n lineham in the off season supposedly to bolster the squad and it doesn’t take a genius to realise why we are where we are . Hindsight is a wonderful think but I’d like to think that if fifita and butler had kept on the field yesterday, and Lino hadn’t failed a fitness test we wouldn’t be having all this vitriol spouted all over social media .'"
100% spot on.
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