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Quote: PopTart "The Salford game is a nightmare to watch whether at the game, highlights or just reading the scoreline.

I don't however buy into the trend that all the players couldn't be bothered or that they are all rubbish or that the coach is rubbish.
I think the stats show us where the problems were quite clearly

Of the 13 tries scored
3 from kicks that could have been fielded, positional play from fullback was key to one, from wing for the others
1 was a well worked overlap that was just a good try
5 were direct one on one missed tackles by Minns
2 were through the gap left by Croft and Lineham
2 imho were referee errors.

When you look at the stats
Minns attempted 20 tackles, missing 5. All led directly to tries
Croft attempted 18 tackles and missed 7.
Most telling for me is Lineham. Attempted 1 tackle and missed it - yet 4 tries were scored on his wing

In the forwards, Butler did not carry the ball once!

However,
Whitbread made 28 tackles and missed none. 8 carries with an average gain of 7 and was unlucky not to score.
Batch made 25 tackles missing none
Pitts made 23 tackles missing none
Hood made 21 tackles missing none.
Fifita made 27 tackles and missed one.

Not everyone on the field was giving up the ghost. Some were working hard and being let down by others.
Clearly we didn't have much ball so the carries were low numbers but to me it was a mix of players trying hard and players just not good enough.
We are clearly not going to beat Wigan but if we can get Hall back and put Batch back to centre (and probably put Max at 1) I think it makes for a much better chance at magic.'"



Terrible stats. The only stat I don’t feel is a fully fair reflection of the game is Butler. Watching the game, it was clear he was putting himself in positions to receive the ball and make a carry, but nobody bloody passed it to him.

I’d be interested to know what the possession stats were for the period of the time he was on the pitch… also - what were his stats for tackles?

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Chris Perry was great to watch and good in both attack and defence, brilliant under the high ball and fielding grubber kicks. I always think that we should look far more at Rugby Union players as their skill set is far higher than their Rugby League counterparts a fact that is well proven when you look at past coverts from Union to League. The player depth in Union is huge compared to League so obviously they are going to have better Rugby players. It would be unusual now for a top RU player to come to league as we cannot compete on the wage front with Premiership RU clubs, but certainly the talent pool in the lower RU leagues is far greater than SL. If you watch Academy level RU the ability of players on the Premiership club books is staggering , those lads who do not make the grade would be excellent options.

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Quote: vastman "It just goes to show how spoilt we've become in recent years.

When I first started watching in 1988 we were so lacking in attacking flair that by the time Holland came along we were celebrating players who stopped tries being scored against us more than those who scored them. I remember many a game where the highlight was one of Hollands try saving and match winning tackles.

Rare anyone celebrates that these days.'"


Your memory must be going, I/we celebrated a tackle, try saving/match winning one, against Warrington, at home recently. icon_smile.gif
But I know what you mean.

I thought that Milky had a good stab at fullback a few seasons ago; he gets stuck in tackling and does good cover tackles and could come into the line with attacking play. Not saying that he is the answer, but probably a better option than the present incumbent.

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The tackle you refer to phe13 was an extraordinary effort.Stuff of Legend.
I used to like Les Sheard at FB,could do it all.

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Agree about Holland, I always thought he was excellent for us, but I also recall Halpenny being very underrated, he gave great service.

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Quote: Lockers700 "Agree about Holland, I always thought he was excellent for us, but I also recall Halpenny being very underrated, he gave great service.'"


Col was never under-rated by me, good player, good bloke.

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