I'd be tempted to ring the changes and when I thought about it last night my starting 13 was exactly the same as the OP funnily enough!

Then, thinking about it a little further...Tanginoa and Batchelor would look a great 2nd row pairing going forward but just wonder how vulnerable that would make us around the edges where Wigan can be deadly with the likes of French and Field...

It's got to be about freshening the team up though and bringing plenty of energy in because that's what was sadly lacking last night...

It's a free hit for us though...no-one expects us to win, which probably makes us a bit more dangerous...and on the whole we've performed better away from home this season...

Wigan had a tough game today and it will have hurt them too...we can either play on that or feel a backlash...not a lost cause though for me...

How does it work when there is no appeal?

That today is about as clear cut a ban as you can get! Player knew he'd done wrong...coach has come out and said he's done wrong...I can see a big ban coming as it was a shocker...worse than Will Pryce's for me and he copped a big one!

I’d hope they go with….

Jowitt
Johnstone
Croft
Lynne
Davetanilavu
Walker
Lino
Fifita
Kay
Aydin
Akinbiyi (or swap with Batchelor)
Pitts
Batchelor

Subs
Tanginoa
Shaw
Bowes
Whitbread

Tanginoa is the best second rower we have, in fact he’s one of the best in the league!
Yes, he can play prop forward and can do a sterling job of it, in fact he may be the 2nd best prop at the club.

We are a genuine prop forward short, we should have recruited one in the summer but we didn’t and as a result we have to play our best second rower at prop. We can comfort ourselves that we have others who can play at 11 or 12 but the truth is none are as good at it as Tanginoa and with him at prop forward we are a less challenging with the ball.

So for me, IMO, Tanginoa should play at 11 and we should keep him there to let him regain his feet in his best position so that he can become that player who made The Dream Team.

In the meantime we need to pull up trees looking for a genuine prop forward who has some size and plays with authority.

You’re joking, that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read.. He’s nothing like, pure fantasy, he’s not the best at Trinity Batchelor is, Tanginoa is terrible at present and doesn’t deserve a place

He used to be good but even then he wasn’t the player you describe. Utterly ridiculous.

If fit

Jowitt
Murphy
Lynne
Hall
Johnstone
Miller/Walker
Lino
Fifita
Kay
Whitbread
Tanginoa
Batchelor
Arona

Bowes
Akinbiyi
Aydin
Shaw

Fine apart from lazy Tanginoa, put in Crowther a much better player.

In your opinion!

He made the Dream Team when he was in the second row, that’s undeniable
He lost his form and his confidence when we started using him as a front rower then messing him about by playing him off the bench, as a prop then the odd game back in the second row then back to prop again

Batch has been better this year but still hasn’t shown the sort of form that Tanginoa did in his first season let alone fulfilled his own potential.

There, I managed to answer you without being disrespectful to you or using ridiculous emoticons

Crowther, who came on from the bench and put in two very lazy and poor defensive efforts that contributed to 2 of Wigans try’s
Not for me, he’s got work to do IMO

And Tanginoa hasn’t!

When did Tanginoa last play to anywhere near his ability level? About two years ago that’s when.

When did Crowther? About two weeks ago.

Pretty obvious to me.You’re only as good as your last game that’s what they say. In that case Tanginoa is the worst player at the club.

Yes I’m being extreme to prove a point but not by much.

You’re just making my point for me, the last time we saw Tanginoa play at his best was when we played him at second row every week and let him find his best form there, y’know about 2 years ago

Jordan is limited, we’ve seen enough of him to know that what we see now is how he’s going to be throughout his career. He’s never going to trouble the opposition enough to make a Dream Team selection and that’s OK but he’s borderline good enough for Super League, that’s all.