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| Quote alegend="alegend"Not after agro but JC ,Batch if he signs, and Walker are light years behind were Westerman was at there years .At 18 he was winning matches on his own for Cas Think the only thing that held him back from being a all time great was because he had time out of the game when is heart stopped when playing for Cas'"
He didn't have time out of the game.
He probably held himself back a little with some of his lifestyle choices. |
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| Quote vastman="vastman"He isn't as good as Westerman but to say he isn't in the same league is hugely disrespectful. He's a different kind of player but one who IMHO will offer just as much so long as no one expects a like for like.
In some ways he's a better option in that sometimes Westerman is too good for us and the team struggles to follow him, Pitts is more of a steady team player which IMO may be a good thing.'"
The original poster was comparing Crowther and westerman at the same age , aged 18 joe was national league one player of the season , age 21 he was hulls marquee signing, at Crowther S age he’d just been signed for a 150 k by Warrington, aged 32 with all his injury and personal issues he’s still a far superior player to both batchelor and Crowther . |
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| Quote Kirmudgeonlyisback="Kirmudgeonlyisback"The original poster was comparing Crowther and westerman at the same age , aged 18 joe was national league one player of the season , age 21 he was hulls marquee signing, at Crowther S age he’d just been signed for a 150 k by Warrington, aged 32 with all his injury and personal issues he’s still a far superior player to both batchelor and Crowther .'"
Ahh my mistake, yup I'd agree with that, though there was a point where Batchelor looked the real deal. |
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Ahh my mistake, yup I'd agree with that, though there was a point where Batchelor looked the real deal.'"
Tbh think batchelor will come again, since his injury doesn’t seem to have kicked on but a decent close season and regular foot ball let’s hope he does come through and fulfill his early potential. |
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| Quote Kirmudgeonlyisback="Kirmudgeonlyisback"Tbh think batchelor will come again, since his injury doesn’t seem to have kicked on but a decent close season and regular foot ball let’s hope he does come through and fulfill his early potential.'"
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If any of you have seen moneyball with Brad Pitt, I think we are in the same position in trying to replace Joe Westerman, like for like so to speak due to the money a player of that quality would command and also who is available. I’d be more than happy to go into next season with Crowther, Arona & Brad Walker all competing for the 13 shirt and direct any left over funds to another position.
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| Quote phe13="phe13"Is Batch ooc at the season end?'"
Yes he is, I know this is quite controversial but I and it is only my opinion believe him to be a better player than Crowther. |
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| Quote Lockers700="Lockers700"If any of you have seen moneyball with Brad Pitt, I think we are in the same position in trying to replace Joe Westerman, like for like so to speak due to the money a player of that quality would command and also who is available. I’d be more than happy to go into next season with Crowther, Arona & Brad Walker all competing for the 13 shirt and direct any left over funds to another position.'"
Moneyball is one of my favourite films but I don't draw the same conclusion.
Replacing Westerman per the Moneyball logic means you have to find someone with his stats.
The important thing is you don't have to replace like for like in the position.
We are losing and big metres middle with good hands and a lot of experience.
Improving those stats in the front row can mean you go for different stats at 13.
The point being, you need to identify what their stats are and what you need in your team. |
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Moneyball is one of my favourite films but I don't draw the same conclusion.
Replacing Westerman per the Moneyball logic means you have to find someone with his stats.
The important thing is you don't have to replace like for like in the position.
We are losing and big metres middle with good hands and a lot of experience.
Improving those stats in the front row can mean you go for different stats at 13.
The point being, you need to identify what their stats are and what you need in your team.'"
I was just trying to say that we are going to have to go in a different direction rather than looking for another Westerman, but yeah great film! |
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| Quote Lockers700="Lockers700"I was just trying to say that we are going to have to go in a different direction rather than looking for another Westerman, but yeah great film!'"
Sorry I didn't quite get that.
Ignore my long wordy post and I'll replace it with "I agree"
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"Yes he is, I know this is quite controversial but I and it is only my opinion believe him to be a better player than Crowther.'"
100%. I think Bachelor has been excellent lately and we need to sign him up if possible |
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