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| Personally for me it’s the scheduling of matches, as I play sport myself on a Saturday and have training sessions on Thursday I gave up my season ticket a few years ago as I wasn’t making it to many games. I’d have one back in a heartbeat if the majority of games were Sunday afternoons.
I think super league fixture scheduling is a bit of a shambles in itself which inhibits attendances.
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| We must do everything possible to increase our attendance figures next season and if that means a reduction in season ticket costs or ticket prices then I believe it will generate more than it would lose. The more crowds the better the in ground and merchandise sales. The other and probably the most important factor coming up to a review is the perceived benefits in increased attendance figures to the SL.
I don’t know how our ticket pricing compares to others but it pains me to say that the ground does discourage some from going and until it improves this must be reflected in what we charge.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"We must do everything possible to increase our attendance figures next season and if that means a reduction in season ticket costs or ticket prices then I believe it will generate more than it would lose. The more crowds the better the in ground and merchandise sales. The other and probably the most important factor coming up to a review is the perceived benefits in increased attendance figures to the SL.
I don’t know how our ticket pricing compares to others but it pains me to say that the ground does discourage some from going and until it improves this must be reflected in what we charge.'"
If we don't charge the same rates as other SL clubs because of our current facilities then I`m afraid to say we wont be a super league club much longer, we already struggle financially against other SL teams due to financial backing.
The same people begrudging paying an extra 3 or 4 pound for a ticket will be the same ones complaining that we don`t have the money for quality players, I have no doubt about that and it`s a vicious circle.
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| Quote 4foxsake="4foxsake"Personally for me it’s the scheduling of matches, as I play sport myself on a Saturday and have training sessions on Thursday I gave up my season ticket a few years ago as I wasn’t making it to many games. I’d have one back in a heartbeat if the majority of games were Sunday afternoons.
I think super league fixture scheduling is a bit of a shambles in itself which inhibits attendances.'"
This is the key we used to play Sunday afternnon at 3.30 all home games away were usually 3pm Sunday now games are playing second fiddle to TV and not the local communities.
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"This is the key we used to play Sunday afternnon at 3.30 all home games away were usually 3pm Sunday now games are playing second fiddle to TV and not the local communities.'"
I agree, and unfortunately 99% of the time its completely out of the hands of the club, I'd say that's something the wider game needs to pick up on, consistency of the fixture schedules that's both in making them consistent in the first place and secondly keeping reschedules to a minimum. I realise, more than ever with Covid this has been difficult but some of it is just bizarre, playing games on Sky on a Monday night and a Wednesday night, then no game on the weekend and then they wonder why viewing figures have fallen?
I think if it was down the club, we would play all home games at 3pm on a Sunday.
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| Changing the league structure every 3 years needs to stop as well.
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| The rescheduling of fixtures for Sky should only impact two matches the rest are down to the clubs. The most obvious failure is playing any match mid week which involves travel on the M62. This not only put supporters off from going but can also result in teams arriving late. I know that many do this to benefit their hospitality clients, so I suppose it boils down to which generates more income. The downside is to the away supporters who in many cases are unable to attend.
The Sunday games have always favoured supporters of both the home and away clubs. I know that because many clubs now play on a Friday we have to as well to avoid giving our squad two days less to prepare and get over injuries.
The bottom line is that if the majority of clubs continue to prefer Friday the rest of the clubs when facing them at home must do so too unless the following game is against a Sunday team.
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| Quote 1315trinity="1315trinity"The problem is you are dealing with the fickle Wakefield public who couldn't give a damn about live sport.
No doubt some will come out of the woodwork if we get the stadium sorted (Big If!) but generally the Wakefield public would not support Man
Utd if they played at BV!'"
I think that’s a bit of an exaggeration. Think on field success would probably have an impact on crowd numbers. It’s a pity they couldn’t re introduce the Yorkshire Cup as they’ve done with the 1895 Cup or whatever it’s called …
There will be a number of different reasons why supporters aren’t returning this season. One of them may be related to the poor performances for the last 2 years the stadium facilities and the poor product offered to the customer. Hopefully this is changing…
The cost of £25 per ticket is on the steep side for some families and probably does need looking at as some other SL clubs have already done..
Another will still be the prevalence of Covid in the UK and anxiety in relation to catching it. Maybe promotional work around Trinity face masks, hygiene sanitising points etc…
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| Quote Kettykat="Kettykat"Stripping the ball needs sacking off ASAP as very hard to police ,6 again not fussed as we get our fair share but I’m really not bothered if scrums in their last format we’re resigned to the history books as they have become a laughing stock .Get it back to a contested scrum ,one where the ball get fed in straight and not into the second row .We seemed to have coped well without the scrums as in fitness =#FF0000,and has certainly speeded the game up .IMO COVID has played a huge role in hammering the game both on the fans and players front ,games called off ,sky putting games on when and where they want ,fear of contracting COVID all have and will have for quite some time have a huge effect on our game and attendances. But after watching a footy game ( under duress may I add) I still say we have by far the best sporting product on the field ,we just need to get the people who run our great game to step up to the plate and sell it to the public any way they can ,because get a newbie to a game like our last one and they’ll be hooked .Lions led by donkeys springs to mind ,and if the powers that be can’t get the game back on its feet ,they need to step aside and let someone else have a go . It’s very hard to sell a crap product ,but we have one of the very best ,so why are we struggling in the game as a whole to attract investors and fans ,IMO they should be knocking the door down to get a piece of the action.'"
I cannot understand this obsession with "speeding the game up". I don't see those involved with boxing., tennis. football, even chess screaming that the sport needs to be speeded up to make it more entertaining.. Maybe it's just me but my excitement level at a game is just the same as in the sixties and seventies. Clever, skillfull moves, intelligent tactical kicking and competitive scrums are all more important to some (me) than speed.
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| 1) Get the majority of games played Sunday at 3pm. If we need two fixtures on Sky then Thursday and Friday evening are the better slots for thinking about getting audience figures from thsoe who typically don't watch RL.(mainly as there aren't a hoard of football fixtures).
2) I always tend to think that RL has a generally aging demographic. I might be wrong on this as i'm only basing this off my own pair of eyes and perception (which are both pretty poor to completely e depending on who you ask  ). We need some better ideas to try and get younger fans in on a match day. I know some of these have been tried such as the odd game where it was brign a friend for free. I also understand the pros and cons e.g are people really bringing someone new. But generally not many people are going to turn up at any age on one occasion and be hooked. Maybe we need a more prolonged and targeted campaign at U16s and particularly those at Junior schools. It doesn't have to be kid for a quid stuff but maybe the odd game (that generally have lower attendances) where it's an adult pays and kids go free. Or working in tangent with a school we can do organised school trips to the likes of Wigan and put on coaches and make it an occasion with face painting and masks e.t.c.
3) Rugby League is very much a working class sport. The price of everything is going up. I know this also means that the price of overheads and upkeep are more expensive the for the club which leads to a rise in ticket cost but wages are generally not going up enough for your average punter. I know Vastman said what is an increase when it's just the vost of a pint over the last few years but if there's a family four attending it soon becomes nearer to the cost of an extra adult ticket. Not even in line with inflation most of the time. The stadium will unlock a lot of this. Which new punter is attracted to watch a team that is playing in our current place? What's exciting about it? Perception is a funny thing but I bet some people wouldn't walk through the gates just because of the pre-conceived ideas they have from seeing the stadium. It needs to be anevent and a good event usually needs the grandiose arena to be befitting (at least to some).
4) There needs to be some recognition that good performances ultimately breed positivity. Positivity breeds excitement and excitement will get bums on seats. Good performances require good players and the club may have to take a few more risks in maybe spending more money on the odd star or contract in order to improve the team and get the team winning more often. How many people have not turned up this season due to poor performances and the fact it's been pretty much two years of pretty poor peformances? Rather than a cycle of positivity you've got a cycle of negativity and I'd say that once a fan is lost it is probably hard to get them back.
5) The rules. We need consistency. Stop chopping and changing. The six again just leaves more down to the referee's perception and honestly I'm beginning to not have a clue msyelf how it is applied as the same things are not penalised in the ruck. Someone has said it speeds the game up but I've witnessed it slow the game down due to all the messing about it causes in players playing for penalties and holding players in. This is creating ucnertainty for referees. The rucks are as scrappy and slow as they have ever been and this is due to the current rules and how the game is referreed. I'd genuinely keep the seven tackle set for a ball kicked dead rule and scrap the rest of the new ones. And keep it that way.
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| Quote Redscat="Redscat"I cannot understand this obsession with "speeding the game up". I don't see those involved with boxing., tennis. football, even chess screaming that the sport needs to be speeded up to make it more entertaining.. Maybe it's just me but my excitement level at a game is just the same as in the sixties and seventies. Clever, skillfull moves, intelligent tactical kicking and competitive scrums are all more important to some (me) than speed.'"
What I eluded to Redcar in the speeding the game up without scrums was that people were moaning about the squad not being fit ,but the players have coped admirably with the speed of the game and the new interpretation, and have been more than a match in that department , for me our lacklustre performances have been more a mental obstacle than a fitness one .
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