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Quote: vastman "Stopping the economy is a far bigger one.

Sometimes in life, you have to be pragmatic and seize the day, it's what made this nation, and that has to include a level of sacrifice.

Now I'm not suggesting Somme levels here but with the current case to death ratio lockdown cannot be justified. Even if it went up pro-rata to infections it still couldn't.

By seizing the day I mean this. Whether you think Boris is a lucky clown, or you are anti-Brexit etc, the UK is now the best positioned country in Europe and perhaps the world to make a strong economic recovery. This is not a political opinion it's just how it's turned out, whether by luck or judgement Boris has hit gold with the vaccines and it would be criminal to waste it.

I'm not a fan of the EU and I was never convinced leaving would be a disaster but now we have a chance to make good any losses far more easily than we might otherwise have done. It's not great that thousands died and that this may well make a prize clown look like Churchill to some but it would be incredibly churlish and counterproductive as a nation to let that get in our way.

It's sink or swim for the UK and we may have just been thrown a life belt.

So sorry but for me, it's no gamble, it's a necessity.'"



Is it really "sink or swim" and if so, why is the UK the only nation that is taking this particular route ?
Also, our new Health Secretary is suggesting that we will see 100,000 new cases every day.
Even with very small percentages ending up in hospital and dying, is this the right approach - as I say, only the UK has gone for the schmidt or bust, risk everything on red approach.
After 15 months of restrictions, the "now or never claim" seems bloody ludicrous, it clearly isn't now or never.

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That’s ruined any credibility for honesty comparing me to something our pathological liar of a PM would say. I took my stance from comments from SAGE rather than Johnson who I believe has changed his definition already from Monday to Wednesday to better suit his stance.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "That’s ruined any credibility for honesty comparing me to something our pathological liar of a PM would say. I took my stance from comments from SAGE rather than Johnson who I believe has changed his definition already from Monday to Wednesday to better suit his stance.'"


I didn't actually mean Boris said it, I meant it was said at his briefing by Chris Whitty but never mind.
I shouldn't have said anything. My bad.

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No I am glad of your support but it was your indication that it was our PM who said it in his announcement and I didn’t want any confusion or for anyone to actually believe he tells the truth.

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Working in a school environment the biggest news ATM for me is that at present when one child gets a positive result the whole class has to go home for 10 days even though the rest don’t test positive, shortly the only person to go home is the child sat at the side of them, which will be a godsend for parents ,education and schools alike ,although the kids probably won’t like it . We have to draw the line in the sand and live with this virus like flu with maybe a booster jab every year to up our immunity levels just like the flu jab, and many other ailments that affect humans ,now that the majority of the English vulnerable population has the vaccine the symptoms for most will not be life threatening and will mean a few days at home kicking our heels . Personally I don’t see hospitals been inundated with masses of the population ,we’ve got to approach this new era with the old British stiff upper lip and got on with it ,not gung-ho but with precautions and wear masks where and when it’s sensible for the user to do so .Supermarkets and the like have always been a place teaming with snotty kids and adults spreading their colds n germs ,so wear a mask ,I will even though for the first 10 mins I’m looking through foggy glasses ,but this is a small price to pay in the bigger picture . We as a country have come a long way since those ludicrous queues and shelf stripping of the early pandemic ,we need to keep moving forwards with caution and there is nothing to say don’t take extra precautions if personally required to keep you and your loved ones safe ,but keep moving forwards ,it’s the only way to get our lives back .

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