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Quote: Sacred Cow "Former referee Ian Smith, who until relatively recently was still working for the RFL has confirmed on twitter that the decision was wrong as he should have been deemed out of play due to not being onside at the play the ball. Apparently the video refs remit doesn’t stretch to checking offside at the play the ball so it was the on-field officials that got that wrong.'"

Quote: Sacred Cow "“Out of Play” as opposed to “off side” 3. Players who are out of play at a play-the-ball (Section 11), a scrum (Section 12), a kick off or drop-out (Section Indeed. It seems he was 'out of play' rather than offside.

Quote: Sacred Cow "Retire at play-the-ball (g) players of the side not in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting half back are out of play if they fail to retire ten (10) metres from the point at which the ball is played or to their own goal lines. Players of the side in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting halfback must retire behind their players involved in the play-the-ball or to their own goal'"
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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "You are mixing up 2 different rules. The bit you quoted is written for say, being in front of the kicker.

If you carry on down the page that you linked to you will find this section


(e) he retires behind the point where the ball was last touched by one of his own team.

then you best get in touch with the RFL then to rewrite the rules we have one retired ref who state he's offside and two present refs who had went with being played back on side and was deemed to be out of play

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Quote: snowie "https

(e) he retires behind the point where the ball was last touched by one of his own team.

then you best get in touch with the RFL then to rewrite the rules we have one retired ref who state he's offside and two present refs who had went with being played back on side and was deemed to be out of play'"


Carry on further down the page. If a player is out of play then those scenarios you keep quoting are irrelevant. "Are not put “on side” in the manner described in para 3 above"

Ian Smith has apparently said that players being offside at the play the ball isn't in the video refs remit, which I wasn't aware of but it makes sense as to why the try was given. Thaler obviously missed it (mistakes happen), and the video ref couldn't rule on it.

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Quote: coco the fullback "I got my quotes above from your link to the RFL laws.

I'm sure they could make it more difficult to read if they tried.

He was technically [iout of play[/i rather than offside which is defined in section 11 and the difference is referred to in the notes at the bottom of the section you quoted- which means it is not reset by our player touching the ball in front of him.

I'm still not sure I fully understand 'downtown' which is also there and Kirmo was pinged for a couple of years ago.'"

I suggest everyone plays to the St Helens rule book, they never get pulled up for offside for any type of kick. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: snowie "well the rules above come from the rfl and is clearly within whats in red, are you looking at Crowther being off side at the charge down or mason who was at the side of the play the ball?'"

Mason was out of play which, as it states further down the rules from you've stated and has been put on here by Coco, supersedes the part you’ve highlighted and means he can’t be put back onside by Crowther. It should have been no try, Thaler got it wrong and for reasons best known to the rule makers the video ref is not allowed to rile on it. One in our favour for once but i’d have been livid if the boot was on the other foot.

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What's the fuss ,there is a rule that says you can not throw the ball forward. Your big teams got rid of that rule a long time ago,and have won many matches .on the back of it ..The way you are going on about it, you would think Hull had scored that try in the last minute to win the game .A few years ago Leeds won a Cup S F with 2 trys one a blatant forward pass and the other a blatant knock on bet Leeds fans were not saying those trys should not have been given

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