Honestly? No i can’t see it sadly. But we have plenty of cards in our favour going into this one, there is no reason why we shouldn’t be giving them a good contest. If we don’t then we are in a bigger hole than even i thought, and i think it’s pretty large as it is.

Carry on further down the page. If a player is out of play then those scenarios you keep quoting are irrelevant. "Are not put “on side” in the manner described in para 3 above"

Ian Smith has apparently said that players being offside at the play the ball isn't in the video refs remit, which I wasn't aware of but it makes sense as to why the try was given. Thaler obviously missed it (mistakes happen), and the video ref couldn't rule on it.

I suggest everyone plays to the St Helens rule book, they never get pulled up for offside for any type of kick.

Mason was out of play which, as it states further down the rules from you've stated and has been put on here by Coco, supersedes the part you’ve highlighted and means he can’t be put back onside by Crowther. It should have been no try, Thaler got it wrong and for reasons best known to the rule makers the video ref is not allowed to rile on it. One in our favour for once but i’d have been livid if the boot was on the other foot.

What's the fuss ,there is a rule that says you can not throw the ball forward. Your big teams got rid of that rule a long time ago,and have won many matches .on the back of it ..The way you are going on about it, you would think Hull had scored that try in the last minute to win the game .A few years ago Leeds won a Cup S F with 2 trys one a blatant forward pass and the other a blatant knock on bet Leeds fans were not saying those trys should not have been given